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I play dota most of the time and league from time to time, but i find league very difficult, i mean it could be because I am not that familiar yet with most of the champs but mostly maybe because it is to fast paced for me. ,like every other minute there's a clash so I guess I don't have any reflex for that anymore, in dota it is almost always slow, like sometimes you need to camp out for a number of minutes even without doin anything
ОтветитьIs it true that old Invoker version has a 27 skills? Sorry, I only started playing DoTA recently and never played that hero, not even the tutorial, lol.
ОтветитьMy dude really put Yuumi in a complexity video
Ответитьdude no way u put naga and mag in middle they are super hard champs to play at least some what effective u don't consider some things in ur thought process IMO take for example sion/malphite while their abilities are considered skill shots after buying items or even at lvl18 no items comparison to another champ like twitch they can tank way more and are more likely to be played better bye worse players where as twitch needs a bit of mechanical skill in auto attacking and .... altho u should consider champion kits and their abilities u should also factor in the way they champion is meant to be played, sorry if reading this feels confusing cuz I usually what I wrote 2 sentences ago . and also I'm 4.5k dota and like high plat in league so I consider my opinion somewhat valid and would be representing like 60%+ percent of ppl.
ОтветитьLeague of Legends devs: let's acutally try balance the game and keep the game reasonably friendly to new players
Dota 2 devs: Let's fuck shit up
With the Dance Dance revolution Draven, CoD Aphelios, and RTS Chen. I wonder what game genre mechanic are DotA and LoL gonna add in their game.
I'm sold to which ever can add an Ace Combat and Armored Core mechanic in their game.
my brother in christ. May i ask for the background music at the end of the video? It is for peruvian research
ОтветитьLeague players: "we have aphelios, we can be complex too!!!!!! Also league popularity shits on dota 2, F all of u nerds!"
Dota players: "oh my god I am such a chad for not playing league. I am like higher being level brains for being able to play invoker without whiffing every 5 seconds. Jeezus I am such a genius, I am such a Sherlock Holmes, I am playing so strategical and complex, oh my lord, oh geez, oh darn. I bet I could write the Quran myself right now. Oh duuuude"
Last 5 hero of dota only play by the smurf and pro player
Ответитьogres ult is a chance to multicast, not a chance for spells to crit
ОтветитьThem you play invomer with 13 spells and get yourself with 7 itrms with active abilities, not fun😢
Ответитьyou also forgot about tinker, the spirit heroes (yes all four), Terrorblade (a good terrorblade is 100% up there on the complexity chart) and many others, but still this video was extremely enjoyable to watch!
ОтветитьDude you missed Morphling 😢
ОтветитьU didn't include the items. Some spells may seem simple in dota but to reach their full potential, u have to play really good in dota.
ОтветитьGreat vid, been playing dota and was curious about lol but i never rlly liked how there werent as many active abilities or items in the game, and thw fact tht champs were locked behind a paywall
Rlly wished u covered a lot more of the heroes/champions tho, but in the end it was still nice
12 years DOTA 2 veteran here....Micro in this game is not fun, it's a purgatory that you consent to it. Also, i played LoL too, but only 5 years. It's fun but i have hard time pulling items build more than DOTA 2.
ОтветитьDota is more complex believe or not, LOL is so easy to play and rank up, dota is another level, LOL just can keep spam one hero entire match but dota can't cause the counter is so big in Dota that you can't keep pick same hero over and over, unlike LOL you just need to master one hero and good to go
For those think LOL more harder, it's like you think tricycle is more harder then unicycle, LOL is like tricycle ez as shit when compare to dota
Invoker is also known as Arsenal Magus. I think you now know the reason why.
ОтветитьThis video is a little outdated for Dota now. Innate abilities are a thing now for Dota heroes but they’re rare. Not that it changes much.
I disagree with summoner spells being counted for champion complexity. You can pick 2 from a pool of abilities I believe. They’re essentially no different from items. You wouldn’t play a dota hero without active items 99% of the time. I think you should’ve kept summoner spells out of the discussion.
Some heroes such as Tinker, Arc Warden, Morphling, Oracle, and Rubick are much harder than the hardest champions of LoL even though they don't strongly rely on the micromanagement system.
Ответитьi think i get it. dota 2 has a lower floor and higher ceiling
ОтветитьAre you a LoL player? you look a little biased
ОтветитьLeague is an simplified Dota.
Dota is an overcomplex League
Both are fun
Coming from Dota to League can be quite funny because there's a DR with CC in her kit and there's a free tp when going base
Coming from League to Dota is a nightmare. Not because of "game bad" but because people see Axe and think Darius then get a teemo mine firld that deals 1/3 of their health and they haven't bought any item without being dead
You forget to mention tinker as one of the hardest to master...blink dagger and all his 3 damage skills and rearm takes mastery of positioning in order to make damage while unseen in the map (making use of the surrounding trees)
Ответитьall heroes in dota can be much harder tgan league's if you considered items 😂
ОтветитьI played both dota and league for 5 years +, and even tought Dota is way more complex than league, I think that micro wise league is generally always harder, from the simple basis that it is a skill shot based game. Always trying to bait out skills or dodge them brings a whole new perspective to the game.
When i started playing league it was pretty interesting to think the amount of characters in dota that have all point and click abilities or really large, almost undodgeable skillshots
LOL is dota for those who have bad PC or brain.
ОтветитьI think Dota2 is an rts game LOL.
ОтветитьWait, were you using bolivian music at the end of the video?
ОтветитьDota 2 treads switching is crazy already
ОтветитьDid this guy really say Sett and Gwen are more "complex" than Naga Siren???!?!?!!!
I stopped the video right there, complete garbage.
Also, considering summoners spells because they add mechanical difficulties, even tho every champs has them, but leaving out items, even tho every champ/hero uses them but they are 10000 times more mechanical in Dota, is KINDA convenient isnt it?? Also leaving out aghanim and shard for the same reason.
Call the video "which game is more complex if we take naked level 1 champions/heroes and we are heavily biased towards League", suits better.
I feel like excluding Aghs and Shard when you dont exclude summoner spells isnt exactly fair.
Most heroes in Dota will grab their shard and some farm to directly get their aghs because its important to their kit.
Summoner spells are just pick 2 things everyone can, just you get early.
Then you add the active items from Dota without forgetting the extra ability added by Aghan Scepter.
ОтветитьWith proper item skill management even the most simplest Dota hero will be the more complex than champs in LoL
ОтветитьWhat about Viego and Sylas?
ОтветитьThere was never a contest :) most of all these braindead 1 click heroes ( that are not many.. only a few in the 124hero pool ) are designed to be heavy farmers ..and in Dota you need to know the farming patterns that change almost in every patch.... that of course apply to most of the heroes. And all players should know them (so they know were the enemies might farm ) . There is no debate here.....DOTA is.......GOD like tier and is not for anxious/average braindead kid/cosplay/Sunday players/1time beer in his life/woke/transgender player...
ОтветитьI have to actully disagree with wraith King being the lowest cause he has some skill sceiling once you discover that you can direct the movement of the skelletons once you understand what they attack
Ответитьdota has innate passives now, just 2 but they are there
Medusa and Ogre rework
I think viego and Rubick/morphing deserve some honorable mentions for difficult to play. Seeing as you need to have a wide knowledge of hero abilities to play them to their full potential. But good video nonetheless.
Ответитьi would say rubick is more dificult than invoker
ОтветитьJust saying: if you want to farm and push efficiently with WK sceletons, when and where you summon them isn't that easy
ОтветитьDraven doesn’t dance he juggles
ОтветитьIdk man. Some Riot/Valve employee literally just write a needlessly long ability description for a champ and the only thing it does is the most basic shit in the world
ОтветитьI main league before, and i also play dota 2. But i only played dota 2 if there's someone interested of playing with me. But someone who only plays league, i can only manage to play bounty hunter as a all-purpose hero before. Can be a supp, what I've experienced to him is just by buying dagon and ult marking. I mainly play winter wyvern and skywraith mage before but bounty is more fun.
ОтветитьIf dota item need to explain how it works differently in different scenarios (fuking new bkb) it's more complex
ОтветитьWhat about the talents? If you include summoners and passive, should they be taken into consideration as well? It's part of every Dota heroes kit after all, and it sometimes give heroes legit new depth to how they approach the game.
ОтветитьI think it's unfair to compare the complexity of the character's spells and abilities without taking into account the greater complexity of the game in which they are and consequentially of how they are played. You put Naga as below average, but a good naga player has to farm both lanes as well as jungle. I don't think that's less complex than having to trigger combos using your spells while your camera is set on your lane and your 1-2 opponents for most of the time.
ОтветитьBro !
Wheres arc warden !!!
ItS nOt HeRoEs In LeAGue Of LegEnDs ItS ChAmPiOnS!
Ответитьas a fan of both, it’s refreshing to see a video about dota and league comparisons without having the comments be a battleground
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