Convicting a Murderer Ep 1 - An Unraveling Narrative

Y’all haven’t convinced me yet…

THIS DOC SERIES IS PURE GARBAGE.
THEY TRY TO RATIONALIZE EVERYTHING CORRUPT THE POLICE DID IN "MAKING OF A MURDERER", INCLUDING HOW THERE WAS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THE COPS THAT FRAMED STEVEN THE FIRST TIME TO FIND KEY EVIDENCE.
ALSO THEY CLAIM THE BLOOD VILE ONLY HAD ONE NEEDLE MARK SO THEY COULD NOT HAVE TAKEN BLOOD OUT OF THE VILE FROM THE BROKEN SEAL. AHH BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO PUT THE NEEDLE IN THE SAME HOLE WHEN TAKING BLOOD OUT TO FRAME STEVE....
THEN FOR PEOPLE WITH A REALLY LOW IQ, THEY SAY, LOOK AT ALL THIS BAD STUFF STEVEN DID, SO SEE HE WASN'T FRAMED.
ALSO THIS VERY BAD DOC WAS MADE BY A GUY THAT WORKED FOR YEARS MAKING SHIT FILMS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ,WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU EXPECT.
AND THEY ARE REALLY DESPERATE USING THAT 4D CHESS, AND DEVIL'S CHOSEN TOOL, AND FAKE CONSERVATIVE LESBIAN CANDICE OWENS... THEY DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING.
STEVEN WAS FRAMED BY THE SAME COPS AGAIN !
ONE LAST POINT. ALMOST EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE CASE FROM ALL LAWYERS, INTERNAL AFFAIR, THE SO CALLED VICTIM WHO'S BLOODY BONES WERE NEVER FOUND, AND OTHERS WITH SOME CONNECTION ARE OF THE DEVILS CHOSEN TRIBE. DON'T THINK SO? TAKE A GOOD LOOK.....

I watched the initial documentary and it is blatant that "some" are taking revenge because he filed a lawsuit.

Guilty or innocent it doesn't matter to me....but if you think for a second that Colburn is telling any truth what so ever your a idiot lol ...and that alone would have made me say not guilty ...you need video for me to guilty cause I have lived coincidences that no one would believe

It’s odd this video said it was put on 4 months ago the show just came out and I could not find it until today

I used to write steven. Yeah he acts nice. But you cant negate his record. You also cant forget that he did 18 years because cops were deliberately dishonest. He may have done it. Probably did do it. & it was his fault, cant blame the crooked cops for taking a woman's life. Just stating facts. Those bad cops threw away Brendons life. They wronged steven. & they are every bit as rotten as steven. Theyre met to uphold the law...& yet......gross.

This just solidifies that cops suck. Not all of em, of course, but they are corrupt. Rotten.

All three were sacrificed for $36,000,000.

You realize Avery had the same criminal history when he was wrongfully convicted the first time, right?

Steven avery was found guilty because he is. Unless you think everyone in that town is a liar and steven is the only one telling the truth lol

You have to question why no police, sheriff’s ignored in 95 a call came in that he was innocent. And he still didn’t get out till eight years later!! WHY?

I was convinced he was guilty before the documentary, but Candice Owens involvement has sort have made me rethink my stance and that he may indeed be innocent.

BOBBY

I’ve never heard of this case until two days ago. I didn’t have Netflix in 2015. I just binge watched the documentary and became obsessed myself. I never knew there were two kinds of people out there, lol, the truthers and the guilters. I’m not scared to say I believe they were framed. The documentary did mention some of Steven’s crimes on the very first episode because I almost stopped watching because they said he was arrested for setting the family cat on fire by throwing it over a bonfire. I don’t condone any kind of abuse towards animals, yet I continued watching. That being said his crimes were a far cry from murder. I’m not sure if the cat died which I’m sure it did because he said it was an accident he didn’t know the cat was going to burst into flames. Again I almost turned the program, but I am so into real life crime stories that I had to continue and binge watch til the end which merged with his newest attorney. I forget her name but she said she will find the truth even if it proves Steven is guilty because she will dig up the dirty ugly truth. My heart did go out to Brenden. He’s just pitiful the way he was trying to give the detectives what they wanted to hear and then some not knowing he was going to prison for the rest of his life instead of back to class because he had to turn in a school paper. And yes the lady that said is this where white lives matter had come into play which makes sense to me now that all lives matter and I understand the majority of people mostly men that are being railroaded/framed are black. I have always respected law enforcement until now. This one county of corrupt police just shows there’s more out there. I understand why someone with a criminal past doesn’t trust cops. I remember Steven’s cousin was married to a police officer after he did what he did and the police were out for blood. IF he did what she said he did by getting in her car with the shotgun and her child was in the front seat why didn’t they come after him then? I believe once the lady was abducted and she identified him (wrongfully) in the lineup that’s when LE pounced. To be incarcerated for 18 years for something you didn’t do is mind blowing, yet I wonder how many years he would’ve gotten if he was instead convicted of kidnapping his cousin and
child at gunpoint ? Karma will find you one way or another.
So after he was released and he was going to sue for the $38M it’s hard to believe that he would jeopardize his freedom by killing an innocent woman and going right back to the iron cage he just came out of if caught. I know criminals do criminal things but don’t forget he was really an innocent man that was wrongfully convicted and if not for new DNA technology he would have went for life. Two cops wanted him put away for good because no way in heck were they going to see him win that lawsuit/big jackpot. Everything aside I understand he’s not a perfect citizen and he’s done some damning things but I really believe they were framed for Teresa’s murder which is so tragic and my heart goes out to her family. Will we ever know the truth.. I believe his lawyer will find the truth. She’s a smart lady and seems like an excellent lawyer. She’s not doing it for the money there isn’t any. And it’s not about fame or notoriety but justice. I’m hooked in to this case and it’s now 2024 again in 2015 I never heard of Steven Avery nor Making a Murderer. I did some research after I finished the last Netflix episode today and ended up here.

I think the police didn’t explore all the options. For me they should have done further investigations on Scott , Bobby and the former boyfriend. Maybe more investigations should have been done because for now I’m still perplexed. He could easily destroyed the car , hide the keys and hide all evidences or even destroyed. Why would he bring the keys at home ?
1. Maybe Steven did it and he was very stupid??
2. The former boyfriend did it because out of jealousy ???
3. Bobby did it accidentally ( he saw her on the property and think she is really cute and wanted to have sex with her ) and asked for help from Scott to get rid of the body. ?
I think a lot of options could have been explored

Bias, commission and exaggerating on either side serves no purpose. But, I guess it's human nature.

He sounds like he is a jeleous type guy…as MANY MANY are……dosent mean he is a murderer of a woman who is just taking photos of a vehicle he was selling.. ..

They had every peace off evidence they needed. The detectives woke up and got handed the perfect case. They checked all the boxes. It is way to perfect of a case. I really do belive they set him up. I dont think he killed her.

Episode 155, January 20, 2024

I live 35 minutes from the scene of the crime.

Even if I'm convinced Avery is a bad person what the cops did was way worse and the sad part is they continue to do tactics like this they are always getting sued because their corruption, I just watched the American Nightmare another one where it just shows the mentality of cops and there are way too many cases like this.

Miss Owen is repulsively arrogant, she looks like she smells her own farts 😊

this entire episode was a waste of time, portraying a man a certain way doesnt change THE FACTS, the footage and the evidence is what made us all think he was innocent, nothing to do with how he came across or was portrayed

You have no reason to lie if you have evidence, how do you do a report 3 years later. Police are the worst he's not the only innocent person in prison

This is a horrible, you just have to let God deal with these devils!!

Nothing we already have not seen.

Steven is a murderer. Plain and simple.

candace is the same as nikki haley

Steven and Brendan were framed.

What a shitty investigation on the dailywire. Zellner was def not interviewed.

Looking forward to seeing this. I’ve been an Avery supporter.

I give blood twice a year so the viles never confirmed anything for me….. But his low IQ and being able to clean up all the blood…having a car crusher but not crushing the car….searching the messy bedroom and the 6th time they find the key….the roommate has her planner and is not concerned about her and is moving her ex boyfriend into the apartment…… That’s what gets me….

I haven’t watched this yet but as of now I still think it was her roommate…

Lawyers and journalists are the most broken, useless people on the planet.

I still haven't watched the show and probably never will lol but I disagree with Candace because Netflix has had other hits not just this that put it on the map (Stranger Things being one of the obvious ones).

People reacting to a show you’ve already seen is boring. I’m assuming they’ll have some information at some point but I hate this the whole show is sound bites and reactions from.. fans of the case?

I knew Avery was guilty and a disguising human. I hope he rots in jail. People are super gullible. This is why I never have Netflix and never will. All the documentaries about crime on Netflix are all victim blaming on cold blooded killers. Horrible. Period.

My biggest question is, why did he murder her?

Usually, there is always a reason behind it, like a motiv or so, but I have never red one.

I don‘t know if he did it or not, but there are a lot of strange things in this case. Also, this episode did not shocked me at all, they were digging in his past, but it does not ultimately relate to this case.

what does stealing in the 1980s have to do with being a murderer in 2000s?

Boring😔

This is really irresponsible from daily wire. They made a documentary only based on the cop reports, which can't be relied on, clearly. I am shocked to see how this series just transcends the cops side of the story. and did zero investigation on their own. Poor

The county coroner not being called to document the bones being found, no documentation whatsoever, just placed in a box. This is a huge red flag and reeks of corruption by the county. The coroner is supposed to be the only person who can arrest the sheriff

She did a crappy job at attempting to do whatever it was she was… attempting?

I wasn’t fond of her before, now I just do not like her…
No integrity. None.

This documentary is basically just talking about a young mischief Avery when he was younger. The first 30 minutes is the intro to Making a Murderer. The last half is talking about his “history” when he was a kid. Everyone acting like their shits don’t stink suddenly.

I hope there’s some more convincing evidence in later videos, because this just feels like a pretty weak attempt at copying the success and formula of “to make a murderer”, “we didn’t frame him, he really was guilty” edition. 80% of this video was more about the documentary and the people that followed it then it was about the case. Then at the end of this 45 minute “documentary” the best they got is “ yeah well he stole more than just a ham sandwich. He went back and got more. So… Clearly, this is a sign he could be a murderer.” And then they brought up the whole him, running his cousin off the road, which was mostly caught in the documentary. Why are we talking about circumstantial evidence? Why does it feel like I’m listening to the states attorney trying to attack someone’s character in order to get people to swallow what little evidence they have easier? Give me evidence. Give me hard evidence. Just because he was a thief and an asshole doesn’t make him a murderer. I don’t even think that that is a red flag that he could’ve been a murder later in his life. That just shows ignorance. I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was young. I stole from stores, rob somebody, did a lot of drugs, scare a lot of people, does that make me more likely to be a murderer? No. But I know people like this will bring this up as evidence against my character. Which is why it’s really not convincing when I see it used against someone else. I was on the fence before but if this is the best they got, I’m starting to lean towards more Stephen.

When justice will put you in prison for 18 years knowing you didn't commit the crime then put you back in prison for a crime you didn't commit so they won't have to pay you millions we should all be scared

Having a past does not make you a murder

after first episode still have no dought steven is innocent
much like the cops involved with the george floyd case

We shouldn't believe the Netflix documentary because of inclusion and such yet believe this documentary because you guys claim to debunk some things. IMO this is no different than the Netflix version. Everything can be edited to benefit whatever it is you claim. Certain information is only accessible through the proper channels via the public information act. You know not many will attempt to utilize that.

It's insane to me that these truthers (obviously liberals ) hasn't read any documents or seen any evidence. It's ridiculous these people want these bad guys out of prison. Justice has been served that they are exactly where they need to be. And should stay in prison. So sad because Theresa died and she probably suffered. Knowing Steven was the last person she had seen when she was alive because he killed her. I knew even after making a murder Netflix there was something about Steven that knew a lot more than he let on. Just by his actions and how he was so out spoken instead of being considered that this woman was missing, and the last person she had seen was him. And too there's another incident that's surrounding him. That's not bad luck that's bc he is the murder.

Dumb documentary