1950's EXPERIMENTAL APFSDS vs T-54 | M46 vs T-54 | 90mm T82E23 Armour Piercing SImulation

This is one of the earliest anti-tank APFSDS rounds I'm aware of but please let me know if there any others with sufficient information :)

(I know about german ww2 "arrow shells" and smoothbore artillery versions but the information is very scarce...wouldn't be surprised if the russians had early prototypes as well)

Can you do tiger 2 vs t54s armour or t54 vs tiger 2s armour

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It's surprising how some tankies assert that those rounds will do little to no damage to the driver. That shrapnel will obviously kill or seriously injure the driver, instantly incapacitating it, and eventually maiming it.

I see the T-54 is being sent to Ukraine. Please model the Bradley 25mm APFSDS, M1, Leopard, and Challenger 2 against the T-54/55

I know this is an early round and was fired from a relatively small cannon but I'm still surprised it couldn't go through 200mm.

This is why the english developed the 105mm L7A1.

I think this counts as a significant emotional event

I cannot imagine the sound of a non-penetrating shot on a front plate like that... the masses, energy and forces involved boggle the mind.

I think HVAP would have penetrated .

would be interesting to see a perturbation of initial conditions study. You newer know the velocity and angle exactly, maybe small changes would lead to penetration

How about a 75mm Panther round vs. JS 2 armour?

dorks on the internet malign it 60 years later but the T55 was the best tank in the world for quite some time.

Can u make a vid about the thing in front of the M1 abrams that was used to push over cars and debrish like how efective it was agains RPG heat rounds

Good morning…from Viet Nam. This is how Viet Nam win the war.

will I survive if I am behind that??

How did firing from a smooth or rifled gun change the characteristics of early apfsds? Did the spin from a rifle lower the penetration?

Test russian grid on turret roof against Javelin

War thunder now has advanced armour Penetration tests,you are no longer needed

There's a alternate history novel when the korean war went hot called hot war without a doubt the M46 Patton and centurion 1 would out done by T54

Suggestions:
French pre-1940 Edgar Brandt company (Henry Mohaupt, lead warhead designer) HEAT ordnance--50mm rifle grenade, 80mm "rifle" grenade, 75mm round for Mle 1897 rifled cannon
German WWII infantry HEAT devices--adhesive-attach HHL-1, magnetic-attach HHL-3
German WWII 7.5cm HEAT rounds--HL, HL/A, HL/B, HL/C
British WWII #68 HEAT rifle grenade

Now do in reverse, m46 getting shot by t54

Can you do a test with a apfsds that has a mini shape charge standoff tip and see how much better it does against HERA ?

Also, try multiple shots at same place, including shell wreckage, if possible

Please do a vid modeling modern shell thru like ten 1940-50 era tanks from the side front ect

Would be cool to see the Swedish 37mm APDS fired at some target.

I don’t think some people really understand what spalling is and and how fast it’s moving lmao

do m48 patton heat fs and m82 capped against t -55 lower plate

Can you do Atlatl vs. Mammoth?

Kinda disappointing until I realized it's a 90mm projectile.

We're all used to seeing 105 and 120mm

Damn so the 120mm plate on the 1947 variant would have stopped it

"As you can see, Pershing cannot defeat T-34-85 bigger blyat"

It could be cool if you put behind the armour plate the thickness of human skin to see the damage of the little pellets when projectile doesn't penetrated at all the armour plate. :)

Would a cored round like early Sov APDSFS penetrate the plate under same conditions?

Yes t54 was not so shit like many say this!

Holy shit, I didn't think it'd stop it, especially from that range

t-54: huhhh that was close... but no cigar for you m46

Damn that is a wide APFSDS projectile, looks more like a finger than a dart. Clearly some lessons were learned from the experiment.

Russian tanks far superior

I am really really really surprised that a APFSDS projectile going 4400fps, weighing 2.9lbs, and only traveling 100m failed to penetrate a 100mm thick armor plate sloped at 60 deg.

Whats the groves for on that last image of apfsds?

I wonder if a 105mm version of this could've penetrated? Because I suspect 90mm was too small by then.

貫徹力に乏しいですね

what if a tank had wavy armor but also sloped?

Yet Russian 100mm steel rod can do quite a number in return. I am genuinely curious why US and nato did not continue to experiment with it more extensively.

Very nice simulation.

I was wondering if you could do a simulation of the last and probably most powerful full caliber rounds fielded, the US M358 for the M58 120mm gun as used on the M103 heavy tank. Which supposedly (along with the British FV214 Conqueror) were built specifically to counter to perceived threat of the heavy Soviet IS-3 tanks.

Awesome video!! I like that you find some obscure but interesting rounds to test!

Suggestion: DShK 12.7×108mm AP vs. BMD-4 UFP (20mm ABT-102, 62°) perhaps at 200m.

Oh man that is some AWFUL performance, no wonder it stayed experimental

So this round kinda looks like a thumb, instead of a dart? 🤔

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