Why Narcissist Can't "See" You (False Self as Selfobject)

Why Narcissist Can't "See" You (False Self as Selfobject)

Prof. Sam Vaknin

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Narcissist’s selfobject is the False Self, an internal object. Only the False Self forms selfobject relations with external objects.

Selfobject: An object which is used in the service of the self or objects which are experienced as part of the self and provide a function for the self.

APA Dictionary

n. in self psychology, selfobject is one’s experience of another person (object) as part of, rather than as separate and independent from, one’s self, particularly when the object’s actions affirm one’s narcissistic well-being.
The need for self-objects can be an aspect of psychopathology, as when an individual’s self-esteem requires constant shoring up from others. [first described by Austrian-born U.S. psychoanalyst Heinz Kohut (1913–1981)]

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@3aminhubcity
@3aminhubcity - 31.10.2024 16:46

This is the one thing I can't wrap my head around. No matter how many videos I've watched I can't grasp how they see people as "extension of themselves" I'm trying!

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@hectorfr
@hectorfr - 31.10.2024 16:47

Gracias profesor

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@darylwayne5307
@darylwayne5307 - 31.10.2024 17:03

These types of personalities require too much time and energy to be involved with. Much appreciation to Dr. Sam for providing the understanding and signs for identifying people with this condition providing early detection and avoidance measures.

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@chrisbower5583
@chrisbower5583 - 31.10.2024 17:30

Ahh, is this internal/external perception of the false self responsible for the phenomenon of people that constantly refer to themselves in the third person? I've always naturally assumed that somebody constantly referring to themselves in the third person was a indicative of extreme narcissism. It seems this would explain the the actual mechanics behind it! (at least in part). p.s. Thankyou Sam Vaknin. Your work has helped me greatly in the navigation through very hard times in my life and profoundly impacted my understanding of myself, my relationships and of humanity in general. I am eternally grateful.

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@1997Jeep
@1997Jeep - 31.10.2024 17:49

Can you do a video on the difference between a narcissist and a salesmen.

Back when I was 18 I had the experience of working at a company doing in-home sales for air filters & a vacuum cleaner.

There were a few salesmen that stood out above everyone, that would make a sale, when it looked & felt like the customer was struggling to pay for the trailer house we were in & had no business spending an excessive amount on a vacuum.

Are the most successful salesmen the most narcissistic?

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@asahdo
@asahdo - 31.10.2024 17:51

I’ve watched so many of these videos especially around the shared fantasy and relationship cycle. The one thing I really would love to know more about is timelines and triggers in the cycles. Like, what influences how long each narcissist in each relationship spends in each cycle and what triggers them moving to each stage.
I ask because I’ve seen the same narcissists stay in 10 or even 30 year relationships with some people while with another person going through the entire cycle from idealisation to discard in 2 months. I’ve seen discards that last a few days or weeks before the hoover, and others who don’t hoover for months or years.
From watching so many videos I understand why narcissists go through each stage of the cycle (the need for separation individuation, the need to make the external object line up with the interject etc) I just don’t understand why/how/whether there are factors that influence the how long each stage of the cycle lasts and how many cycles a relationship will have.

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@princesseai
@princesseai - 31.10.2024 19:04

I think my brain just exploded halfway through due to my own limitations 😂 however, thank you SO MUCH for all this incredibly valuable information. You explain it very clearly and I love how many synonyms you use when expressing an idea. I’ll come back to this video again for better understanding, it’s fascinating!

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@AsheepAtthewheel101
@AsheepAtthewheel101 - 31.10.2024 19:41

Thank you yet again Sam for this explanation. I eventualy saw the interaction with me came from within the coverts mind and they where noticably confused when I challenged the lack of truth and reality not specifically but to try and understand how they manufactured my role. So healing that you give language to this functioning. Its sheer mastery they can keep the illusion of real interaction out in the world in balance without being exposed.

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@MsCheapface
@MsCheapface - 31.10.2024 19:43

DESCRIBES MOTHER 100%

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@Quarce1
@Quarce1 - 31.10.2024 20:07

An analogy that clicks for me with this is that the external world including other living beings is a set of tools to the narcissist. Nothing more nothing less. Even the false self acts as a tool.

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@lisatotzauer8245
@lisatotzauer8245 - 31.10.2024 21:13

wow Prof, that's amazing timing! had that very topic in my therapy session 2 days ago 😅 bravo 👏👏👏

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@rachelinthelionsden
@rachelinthelionsden - 31.10.2024 21:41

It’s wild. I’ve seen this time and again having multiple children. They grow out of it when we validate them. When we see them in all their experiences and states as a young one.

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@rachelinthelionsden
@rachelinthelionsden - 31.10.2024 21:44

The false self is what Narcissus saw in his reflection. Is he in a codependent relationship (or drama triangle) with his false self?

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@donnadwarika6370
@donnadwarika6370 - 31.10.2024 22:03

❤😂Sir always have to watch your videos on repeat n repeat.Thank you for your always Great Knowledge Sir.😂❤.

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@AnnetteCurtain-tc4mh
@AnnetteCurtain-tc4mh - 31.10.2024 22:11

Control freaks.

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@lilo4784
@lilo4784 - 31.10.2024 22:17

Professor is the persona Batman an example of the false self interacting with external objects?

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@jansefran1752
@jansefran1752 - 31.10.2024 22:25

Coz they are " blind " ...

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@palma9835
@palma9835 - 31.10.2024 22:44

Would this be an example?...... during the dating part of the relationship I had with a narcissist I went out of town for a weekend. I just left. Didn't need to tell any one. He called as if I abandoned him saying, "I don't like it when you just leave". I thought it was a bit quirky but didn't think of it as a red flag - although it probably was one of the first I overlooked. We laughed it off. I thought he thinks more about me than I thought appropriate.... I was his internal object "leaving"?

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@andrealia5241
@andrealia5241 - 01.11.2024 02:56

I think it is very easy to understand if one imagines all the narcissist's actions performed by a robot not a human. Everything is programed and functions mathematically. It is like a "step by step" manual.

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@ChrisB-ki9ch
@ChrisB-ki9ch - 01.11.2024 04:22

Start studying Psychology later this month. These videos are intriguing. Want to be part of the conversation and get better personal insight.

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@remasalman
@remasalman - 01.11.2024 04:34

Hi Mr. Vaknin Happy Halloween! 🎃

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@ariellamaizels
@ariellamaizels - 01.11.2024 05:05

Truly a spooky video on All hallows eve 😂

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@bagsmcbaggins6017
@bagsmcbaggins6017 - 01.11.2024 06:53

I love watching Sam Vaknin videos, but as more of a poetic performance. I find them hard to comprehend unless I give them my complete undivided attention. Can anyone recommend channels or sources or anything that I can find trustworthy to learn more about Narcissism and other personality disorders?

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@Александр-и7ж7д
@Александр-и7ж7д - 01.11.2024 08:41

Thank you, Sam❤

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