Timber Frame vs Conventional Stick Frame

If you make your own timbers from your own property, how long do you have to let the wood sit to dry up enough to minimize warping after the fact in the construction?

I have a barn, about 150 years old, which is made of oak beams, all pegged, and has stood against many Hurricanes/Tropical Storms...just now survived Tropical Storm Lee...with the huge surfaces it has, it's truly amazing that it doesn't yield, though it shakes and creaks during such tough tests. I love the building and feel grateful to the builders every time it toughs out another storm! I'm a woodworker, so, maybe I'm 'biased'...haha! Cutting joints in a heavy beam is just so much fun!

if you put the insulation layer on the outside of the timber frame, you need a lot of extra wood to hold it. as you already have the sticks in the stick frame construction holding the insulation no extra wood is needed. so the model of the timber frame is missing the wooden construction for the insulation. if you add that extra wood to the timber frame you see there is not much difference concerning the amount of wood needed. If using a stick frame construction I personally prefer adding an extra layer of 6cm insulation over the whole construction layer /insulation between the sticks. So the heat transmission is highly reduced through the wall construction. timber framing is beautiful, but technically and concerning costs I do not see any advantage.

I have been a builder for fifty years. Houses , boats of a 100 tons, and have renovated many houses from the eighteenth century as well as disassembled houses deemed historically insignificant. I found this video very informative in realizing that timber frame can be as strong as stick frame. I am about to start a community of houses and am going to use a frame and infill of either hemp or dustcrete. So my question is how will I stiffen the build, where I use a Crete and parge on the outside. Extra metal bracing or will mortised in do?

Is it just me, or are those small model frames the coolest coffee table centerpiece? They're like artwork.

I think this is a Timber Frame and SIP commercial.

En que escala esta hecho???

I had to search for this video, it popped right up, thank you so much, I thought I was going nuts trying to find a stub to hang anything on, and nothing! I know my dad taught me well, Rest his beautiful soul, and utter talent! Thanks for filling in the much needed gap in my life! Very well explained. I have to hang tapestries only haha
I am also terrifies of fires, good thing we live literaly across from the fire station, and they are here in a heartbeat when the alarm goes off, and we have months inspections on everything.

More like “sucking timber frames dick for 6 minutes”

What makes up shear walls in the timber frame?

Also fire resistance. Thick wood takes longer to burn through, whereas 2x4 are quick to burn through and you have a collapse sooner. Also less salvageable. Great video.

Considering the longevity of the structure, you might even include that it's far more sustainable for civilization to have timber structures. The lifetime impact of all that gypsum and all those little pieces in the stick build probably make us put a much larger demand on the environment to provide resources than a timber build.

Why have an expensive 'wooden' frame when you use SIP's panels?
Structurally Insulated Framed houses if designed properly do NOT need framing at all.

Couldnt you put zip panels on a conventional?

Clear your damn throat one more time

How many times can he clear his throat in a six minute video…

I love this. Look up the Cataldo Mission in Idaho built in 1853 without nails and it's still in great shape!! Go see it!!

What are sip s?

US houses torn apart by hurricanes is because of ridiculous cheap building codes, not choice of framing.

You mention SIPs a number of times.
I never once had a clue what you were referring to.

? The insulation can also be on the outside of a stick frame, I have no idea what this guy is on about.

Someone get this guy a cough drop!

Ah yes, this guy has explained why soldiers say Americans live in wooden huts. The same soldiers say that it would be easy to slaughter Americans because of this. Go to hell, Pat.

I wonder if part of the reason we see such a preference for stick frames is that they're more "deterministic". What I mean is, there are fewer steps whose outcome is as heavily-dependent on the level of craftsmanship of the particular practitioner engaged in the craft. For instance, chiseling. It might take someone skilled a third of the time to chisel out a wedge in a piece of wood on a timber frame than for someone who is less skilled, not to mention the result of the less skilled person would potentially be abysmal.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. This is just speculation. I'm not in the construction industry :) Thanks.

Somebody get the man a glass of water

Very interesting

so how’d they do it before SIPS panels?

chad timber frame vs soyjack stick frame

Someone's biased!

Our barn is oak timber framed and the lumber was harvested off the farm almost 100 years ago. Something about seeing those old beams that warms your heart

What are those? Houses for ants?

Timber framed homes are not sustainable on a mass scale, you need much higher quality wood. We rely on tree farms these days otherwise we would have no more trees.

Timber framing is traditional framing, stick framing is the newer method adopted for quicker construction

I wonder what kind of house geometries you can get with that, and how easy or hard it is for multiple level houses or houses with basements.
Would definitely be cool to have a house like that, but i think i would want thicker walls/roofing just in case of something knocking into it and adding insulation

Dude is choking on some timber frame the whole time.

Get this guy a throat lozenge.

Here in germany we have houses build with timber frames that are well over 500 years old. Or our beautiful and centuries old half timbered houses. With some maintainance they really last forever - in human time scales.
Today we build almost all our houses out of brick and concrete, some with steel framing and some still with timber framing. There are almost no stick frame buildings at all because they don't last and aren't very sound proof. You can see in american cities that many stick frame houses are just falling apart after 50 years.
The brick house of my parents was build in 1892. My great great grandparents build it. The facade never needed any substantial repairs. Only all the stucco ornaments need some touching up every 20 years or so. The roof is covered with slate shingles broken out of a mountain near our town. We still use slate shingles today. They are all natural and almost ever lasting. And aside from a few broken shingles now and then the roof never needed any substantial repairs, either. Everything still is in great shape. The inside of the house has been modernised many times, of course.
That is how you should build houses. They should be build to last 100 years without any substantial repairs.

Could a timber frame geodesic dome home work? Would it be easier or harder to build?

I learned Timber Framing first and personally I like it more

In Italy there are very few wooden houses which are not pre-fabricated. Those few are built with the timber framing method.

If this was edited to a supercut of the guy clearing his throat, that would also be a 5 minute video.

How do they compare to traditional timber frame (Fachwerk waddle and daub...)
I see a lot of them in my region and even 500-year-old ones are often in great shape and they survived multiple earthquakes and storms...
The most impressive example was a short car drive from my place, which had been nearly utterly wiped out by a flood. The only buildings still standing were the really old timber frame ones. Their walls were gone on the ground floor, but the rest was still standing on the vertical elements, whereas all the more modern stone and brick buildings had been utterly erased...

Funny that in the US timber framing is the non-traditional method

I'm absolutely not convinced by his "explanation" (or lack thereof) regarding insulation issues of stick vs timber frame. The "voids" he mention from stick frame do not conduct heat, as trapped air is the best insulator (and these voids are usually filled with porous material that drastically improve the insulation property of air). The constant throat clearing was quite annoying tbh, maybe drink some water before recording, and lower the background music.

Basically the end result is the same. The biggest factor ti the cost . around me a 6x6x12 is $63.30cdn, a 2x6x12 is $15.65cdn

This is a pretty good advertisement!

Get this man a glass of water

Fun, now what is the cost difference between two similar planned equal sq footage houses?

Thanks. This would have been better without the music.