What happens when you play LEGENDARY like VERY HARD difficulty?

The point of Legendary is that you may very well lose, and it is not that hard so yeah... it's a real total war scenario.


I play Legendary often with Crisis OFF. It is very important because the campaign is very slow at legendary, and if you have a crisis, you may never win simply because you got overwhelmed.
Meaning that expansions are very relative. The AI has a bonus in Gold, meaning that even if they have a minor settlement, they can have enough money to sustain a couple of armies plus bonus in Upkeep and a bonus in public order although I don't remember but their defense against agents is not very strong.


In WH players don't use much of the agent's actions, which is a bummer... in general at Legendary you have to play with 2 full stack armies and Lighting strike.
in WH2 was easier as a Lighting strike could simply prevent you to fight the reinforcement here is time delayed.

Love the commentary

Scabii

Really the only reason I don't want to play legendary is that I can't pause during battles to give commands... I would like to get a challenge like this though

With the forced Ironman mode in the battle realism I'm not a huge fan of legendary.

One thing that I feel is slept on with kugath and nurglings is how it's easy to ally with either the chaos dwarfs or the skaven In his campaign.

I'm just finishing up his campaign now and had a lot of fun with combining those races insane range units and using the nurglings like skaven slaves. A couple plague wind mortars or hell cannons really helped nullify the enemies ranged advantage because it forced them to come to me. Chaos blunderbuses+ 2 nurglings to cover them shredded units that try to engage. Warpfire throwers and death globe bombardiers/Poison wind devastated whatever was attacking my lines. Basically allowed me to run nurgling's all game, used heroes as my cavalry on chariots and rot flies, and pretty much didn't need codes or plague bearers

That's why I don't like when people go:

"YoU cAn OnLy PlAy On LeGeNdArY oR u Nub"

It's a game, you're meant to have fun with it
If your fun is cheesing or planning 20 turns in advance, that's fine

i play total war only on legendary..

Legendarys anti player bias is just bullshit.

And this is the faintly pathetic legendary from WH3…

I only play Legendary and I dont recall ever seeing random attrition. Not sure, but a wild guess would be that Malagor was in the region or smth. Taking random attrition as a mechanic would be beyond awful

Does Skarbrand ever offer non aggression pacts?

Problem is the game AI doesn't really change it's dumb as a rock it just cheats, one town can end up having 2-5 armies, near instant replenishment and recruiting, infinite gold, and enough free agents that make the map look like an sti.

But thankfully the ai being stupid is you can bait it all the time with a ambush army and a recruit one, hide one and tease.

Actually in very hard its all about getting lucky ... every turn you make should always has a lucky effect otherwise your dead😅

Yow, i just love your narration, men ... some of it is hilarious... always gets me entertained

Even in Hard difficulty everybody declare war on you for no reason

Hot fuzz reference was gold!

a lot of auto resolve hurt so much

Love the Shaun of the dead ref 😂

The difficulty in this series is not favorable for me. Mechanics like corruption just don't seem worth doing when the AI has like a +20 to public order and can cleanse any amount of corruption spread. I like to play vampires while spreading corruption to nearing provinces before I attack them, but on higher difficulties I just spam out armies and wizards instead. I would love the difficulty to range from Easy = Stupid AI (maybe player bonuses) to Legendary = Smart AI (perhaps very little bonuses).

Or maybe they'll go into ancient sumerians' territory of modern Persia

It suffers from the snowball effect.
The game stacks bonus on bonus from about 10 different source. The more territory you take the more money you have and more units. Eventually you dont even need the battles anymore, which represent tight fights, because you can leverage the power of your land to autoresolve everything.

I feel like I get war declared on me all the time no matter what the difficulty is

Would love to see if Legend could save this one! Big mistake not going back to Ekrund and defending as skarbrand shat all over your lands.

It's funny how to me, the enemy actually plays better on normal battle difficulty than hard/very hard.

Damn these comments make me realize how bad i am at total war. Brother i lose campaigns on easy by about turn 50, i rarely make it into midgame

Fyi the chaos attrition was most likely due to a herdstone building causing non-chaos armies to take attrition in nearby bloodgrounds

Any mods to make the AI send more armies? And be more agressive?

hum exactly the same ? outside of the campaign camera ?

And yet there is an achievement for each faction that you can get by winning on either Very Hard or on Legendary... As if they were the same thing...

Legendary campaign isn't so bad its the very hard battle difficulty that is horrific. Its like Legend said you get penalized for playing well since you have infinite leadership dwarves and your units get melted in .5 seconds by high reload enemies. My go to is Legend campaign and Hard difficulty. Usually takes one or maybe two restarts to get get used to it but i've never lost a campaign once I get past turn 40

I always thought the only difference between vh and legendary was a bigger public order penalty and not being able to save, now I learn there are a ton of other numerical changes? wtf? The game doesn't tell you this, as far as I can tell.

The obvious answer is mods to finetune your challenge.

As someone who's played both quite a bit. Very hard is a 4x game. Legendary is a horde survival game.

I prefer just hard
not just because I'm not good enough for higher difficulty
but because I think the ai cheats beyond hard is too much bullshit
if only you could somehow make the ai more dangerous in other ways

Omg, when Skarbrand and Skrag declared war on you, I completely lost it 😂 GG 👍🏻

Why does difficulty=allowing the AI to cheat? Makes no sense. The difference between a 650 ranked bot and 2000 ranked bot in Chess isn't that the 2k bot gets to move their pieces extra spaces or makes two moves in one turn, they just make smarter and more calculated decisions.

Seems like legendary tactics are.
1 Kill everyone.
2 Kill everyone.
3 Build more armies
4 Kill everyone.

Classic legendary campaign, 1 guy wardeccs, 3 follow and send all their army's at you instandly xD

Oh I realized something. Before whenever we talked about legendary difficulty there was also some uncertainty on whether there was a difference in the AI on legendary vs very hard. Most people said the only change was to some public order and no manual saves and battle realism. I think this proves that there are other bonuses the AI is getting on legendary, maybe to behavior.

Say hello to overexpanding too fast :)

I just want to be able to finish this game on NORMAL difficulty.

I would love if they made "Warhammer Sagas" and do sandbox style campaigns restricted to a certain part of the world, like the original old world map but to a bigger scale like with Britannia. I'd love to do a really long and intricate Vampire Wars campaign, with Mannfred as the main threat

Another useless clickbaity video. You can just read the code that tells you exactly what bonuses the AI gets and draw a conclusion from there on how it will go. Done. No dumb video.

you should not auto resolve in legendary, simple

Is there no sound on this video?

Thanks. I never play the same campaign on VH and L and just did one as Eltharion in this region in VH. Never know how big the jump in difficulty actually is because I don't compare them.

the shaun of the dead reference was damn well placed bro

Always thought the big streamers only played on legendary.😮