Are NVME SSDs EVEN Worth It? (NVME vs SATA)

the biggest factor is latency. the pipe is bigger so more data can flow through it. but when random read and writes happen it can happen faster over the lanes. so while you may not be able to use the other half of the pipe. the chips on the ssd are going to be more efficient and quicker when it comes to its task which it can still perform over your gen 3 lanes. so you still probably see some benefits from the gen 4 chips on your gen 3 lanes even though you can open the pip all the way for the drive. the pipes still snappier

The speed difference is only matter for doing lots of large data transfer like HD videos. Every day use: browsing internet, watching videos, running applications. Not much differenc.e

I had a gen 3 nvme hooked up as a c drive, then switched to a gen 4 980 pro. I dont think I perceived any real difference. It already booted fast on gen 3! Games also have nearly non existent gains. But in my head i always put new games on my gen4 drive because i "think" it does something lmao.

i thought my computer was schizophrenic until i realized I had a sata 3 connection not nvme

I have old CPU so I faced a lot of bottleneck in some games and some stuttering and microseconds freezes when playing on my old hard drive
But after installing the Samsung 980 pro nvme not only the performance of games drastically improved but also CPU load decreased a lot no more stuttering and smooth game performance
Also the NVME costs only few bucks more than SATA SSD where I live and prices are keep falling

In a time where nvmes cost as much as sata ssds its pretty obvious what to pick now

I was to distracted by the empty beer(?) cans under your bed to listen to the content

believe it or not, forza 4 and 5 had low streaming issue when I was using a SATA SSD. Since I moved to Nvme gen 3 all the stutters are completely gone in all the games and I've never seen a low streaming bandwidth warning ever again.

Did you test m.2 vs sata ssd specifically with gaming performance.... last I checked m.2 does have an advantage but not by much overall when gaming...

Question is are Sata SSD's even worth it now? when 1TB nvme gen 3 models go at same or lower price offering 6 times the performance of sata ssd, and 2TB models floating just above of 2TB sata counterparts, for higher capacities - either of ssd's are stuck at 8TB models for 5 years now with hdd's offering 22TB in CMR (Conventional Magentic Recording) and 26TB in SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording) while being priced 4 times less than 8TB nvme ssd's and 2-3 times less than 8TB cheapest sata ssd's

You look like you live in the backrooms man

Dont forget a backup

Speed in theory isn't speed in real world

NVMe just fast enough for me to know my trigger pull on call of duty hit that dude before his trigger pull hit me :)

Mate your cat totally photo- bombed your video - so funny.

16sec! That's really slow.

You can find 2tb nvme under $100

Right now, then price difference between nvme gen 3 and sata is barely 15%. So I don't think so there is any harm in buying it, considering how cheap it is.

For typical use, nearly any NVMe drive will be a good choice. Unless you do side-by-side comparisons, you will very likely not notice any difference in their speeds.
The above pertains to typical use.

If you will be writing dozens of gigabytes of data to your NVMe drive, non-stop, that is when you will absolutely notice a difference in performance. That wildly fast NVMe drive might slow down to under 100 MB/s write speed (temporarily).

Without exception (none that I am aware of), every consumer level NVMe drive has two types of NAND cells (that is where your data is stored).
Typically, 10% (could be more or less) of the drive will have fast NAND cells, and the rest of the drive will have slower NAND cells (sometimes much slower NAND cells).

So when you write your hundreds of megabytes (or even several gigabytes) to your NVMe drive, you will always hit the fastest part of the drive, and you will always see impressive speeds.
However, if you write enough gigabytes, without rest, to the NVMe drive, you will fill up its fast NAND cells, and the drive will be forced to write directly to the slower NAND cells.

Depending on the drive, you might see a moderate performance slow-down, or you might see the performance drop like a brick.

When your NVMe drive is not busy (which is most of the time), it moves the data from its fast NAND cells to its slower NAND cells (you will not see it happening). So you will almost always have fast NAND cells available for all of your activities.

Run Crystal Disk's benchmarking tool, and set it for 25% of the capacity of the drive (to be sure it will exceed the drive's faster NAND cell capacity).
When you wake up, the next day, if the test finished, you will see lousy results, because the NVMe drive had to write lots of data to the slower portion of the drive.

Chia crypt-o mining involves creating large (100+ GB) files. A common way of doing so is by utilizing an NVMe drive for the process that creates the large files.
People involved with the Chia process have learned which NVMe drives slow down, and which drives maintain their pace.

For typical use, nearly any NVMe drive will be fine. But for large writing jobs, that 980 Pro drive (that our host was using) is a great choice. It will not slow down (or just a bit).

There are Enterprise / Data Center level NVMe drives (U.2 form factor) that are made 100% of the fast stuff. They will never slow down, no matter how much you hammer them.
But be prepared to mortgage your home for those drives.

By the way, that Crucial MX500 SATA based drive, that our host used, gets great reviews. But Crucial butchered the 4 TB model. It performs close to the speed of mechanical drives, and at times, slower than mechanical drives. Stay away from it, unless you need the space but not the speed. The only benefit is that it will use less power than a 4 TB mechanical drive, and it does not have platters that sleep). And shame on Crucial for using the great reviews of the other MX500 drives to snooker people into thinking that their 4 TB model would also perform at that level.

Good stuff. Subscribed based on quality.

In baldurs gate 3 a sata SSD is really showing its age haha

WHO CARES if there's no performance difference? There's virtually no price difference anymore either. Buy the NVMe!

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Also nowadays they're basically the same price up, like a 4tb gen 4 nvme ssd is the same price as a 4tb sata ssd. Only reason to pick sata ssds now is if you don't have anymore m.2 slots on your board

cable management dats worthwhile

update i have 2x 970 evo ssd, and bought a 980 nvme today, i see no difference😅 i just play games, windows seems to boot faster tho

Nice video! For me I currently am using a NVME 3.0 PCIe currently but I am upgrading to a NVME 4.0 PCIe for faster write times and going to use my old SSD for extra stroage while the faster SSD will be my primary SSD that will boot OS, games, and anything else. There is a cost to this as the NVME 4.0 PCIe is more expensive than the 3.0 PCIe for the same storage but it's worth it for sure.

When it comes to power usage it is a clear win for nvme but every other aspect of it even the speed (at the present time) comes down to preference. My own experince of getting faster and faster drives is this doesn't play out in the real world price to performance particulary well or even to just straight perceived and measured performance.

Jumping from HDD to SSD blew my mind away at the sheer amount of untapt power in my old computer had and was a must have upgrade for almost everyone.

Jumpping from SSD to NVME 3.0 was nice but the perceived performace was almost non existent and while the measured data rates benchmarked higher all tasks took less but not subsationally less time, I have found that multiple other tech is very likely llimiting potential gains from the upgrade over the SSD which is already fine and managable.

Jumping from NVME 3.0 to NVME 4.0 the perceived perfomace difference was bigger than SSD to NVME 3.0 but still very small, benchmarks are insane the same limiting factor is in place for the use of this drive.

With how much prices have dropped now for gen 4 nvmes even, they are a no brainer. 50-55 euros for a 1Tb gen 4.0 nvme, albeit it is mid speed at 5K mb/s ,but still great price.

lmao my ssd starting at 13 seconds

You got scammed samsung 980 pro 2TB SSD is £72 now on amazon (not £210)

Excellent expanation mate!

Whooptedoo one is a few seconds faster and that's all you pay for as the rest is 100% the same.
If I can buy 3 sata ssd's for 1 nvme4 the choice is made before you ask the question.
Just upgraded from a crashed HDD to SSD sata, a world of difference.

Kitty on the hunt lol. Thanks quality work

It's not really going to make a significant improvement over a normal SATA SSD for everyday use, but if you're planning on buying an SSD and you have the slot available on your MB (I didn't even know mine had the slot before I bought it and found out about it months later lol), it doesn't hurt to use it since it's not that much more expensive and it's a cables free solution over SATA (at least ≤0.5 TB drives cost both roughly the same here)

Thank you so much for clearing it up!

Prices dropped to like $50-60 for 1tb Nvme m.2 drives

I always thought that unless NVME is cheaper for whatever reason, there is no practical reason to buy NVME, unless you work with really huge amount of data.
But now i have thought about, if you treat it like a multi core processor. Since there is so high speed, you can download, install, play and do a lot of different drive writing & reading without slowing the system/programs on the drive down.
Thanks for the video!

For me, in England, NVME SSDs are actually cheaper than SATA SSDs! (970 Evo Plus NVME and Evo 870 SATA). My current system has a 250gb SATA SSD for Windows and my programs, and a 2tb regular hard drive for all my storage and games and so on. As a filmmaker and content creator, it's safe to say my drive is nearly full and I'm consider a huge jump in storage space. Ideally a 1tb NVME SSD for Windows and my programs, and 3x 2tb NVME SSDs for all my stuff. Though my motherboard only has 2 M.2 slots, so I'll need to upgrade that, and I've contemplating getting a new CPU too. At this rate, one thing is just leading to another lol. Any suggestions, anybody?

Thanks for the video bro I am using hdd since 2013 . I don't actually care about boot times thats why never thought of getting ssd , but modern games like 2042 , rust take time to launch and load a lot with hdd this is the reason. Also I had old gen motherboard so it doesn't support nvme so I was worried if sata ssd would be similar to hdd , but I was wrong !!

Speed is relative...benchmarks aren't everything. What about work load. Most games won't even see a difference unless you have a benchmarking rig which is ok. Working on an Nvme drive requires major surgery; undo the motherboard and all the cable mgt then pretty much rebuild the rig. Sata is simpler...slide it in and you're done. Nvme is great for boot and os drive and mega apps as they will run faster. Sata is good for storage. Best choice is listen to your budget.

I am glad if I can have a new cpu, motherboard, gpu and so on, The ssd drives are always the last things to consider. I don't care about my seconds if I don't have less fps is games.

I went to your Spotify and subbed but cant find that song at the end of this video, I wanna hear the whole song!! Whats the name of it?

When you change the motherboard, it really is best to reinstall the OS from scratch. In my opinion, you wasted $85. By the time you change the motherboard, that drive will be 40% off at least. If not already.

Sorry for the people being negative. I thought this was a great video! It’s easy for people who don’t make videos to critique! Keep going! I honestly was shocked that this didn’t have as many views as I expected! Nice job!

just got a 1TB Teamgroup mp34 Nvme gen 3 SSD for $48.99. My pc had the oldschool set up of small ssd big HDD. It's definitely a worth while upgrade for me.

Great to the point video