The Truth About Lightspeed Bundles - In Your Own Words! SWGOH

The one issue I have with LSBs are people who's rosters you can tell are only at where they are because of LSBs like when I see an opp who has GAS reqs at LSB level, r3 ewoks, r3 geos, light sped BAM, r5 FO I just have a massive issue with it if it's their only characters. Don't get me wrong, I love LSBs and have bought some myself but atleast I have actually farmed other teams like traya, iden, SK, malak etc... but I just hate when someone is only strong because they bought LSBs and put no time or effort into actually gearing, relicing star farming

I really resonate with some of these comments. I have never been a fan of Jabba and haven’t ever had any desire to farm him. However, he’s extremely important to the game, so when his lsb dropped I was thrilled id be able to get him for minimal investment. However, I’m very excited to start farming Baylan soon so even if there was a Baylan lsb I wouldn’t buy it because I enjoy farming and unlocking characters I like.

My life has been so much better since I stopped caring about GAC at all. My account is almost 10 mil and I’m sitting in Auro2 after being in Kyber for about a year. Maybe the squish was good for me because I don’t stress about the game at all anymore and I’m now in a lower guild and it’s a peaceful life.

I don't buy anything but LSB. Just about everything else is a ripoff.

Every lsb so far has always foreshadowed something or answered a new problem. Watch they are going to rotate old raids again starting with krayt since Jawas tuskens and jabba bundles are perfect for it. I'm kidding but that would be kind of wild.

But for real original kylo/rey bundles were for the new gl legendary event thing that comes monthly after conquest. Jabba/hutt cartel/bounty hunters has something big coming. CG is not stupid and this stuff has specific planning around what is and isn't included so something larger at play we just don't know yet.

Great and valid points brought up by all. Wanted to comment on the notion that free to play players can’t advance in Grand Arena.

Up here in Kyber, I’ve routinely fought people who have all the “toys” and have no idea what do with them. Either they are modded poorly, or the defense doesn’t make sense (placing a team easily off meta countered), or being predictable by setting the same defense every time. Is it much harder to move up? Absolutely. This problem existed before LSBs with players who spent big money in the game. Will the best trump card in Grand Arena be having the deeper roster? Yes. Is it impossible to move up? No

Having a sports car doesn’t mean a damn thing if you don’t know how to drive it.

My main account has bought a lot of light speed bundles. I find the account only farming mods and hoarding gear pieces. If it wasn't for my ftp account, I wouldn't be playing. Needless to say, I have stopped purchasing bundles all together because of this issue.

I can confirm i would not be playing right now if it weren't for lsb

The way i look at it, is if you finished ur farm and they release an lsb for that character thats just money saved that u can spend elsewhere, no point getting mad about it🤷🏻‍♂️, F2Ps can still beat people who exclusively have LSBs if they have better mods and theyre in less of a zeta crunch in comparison, asw as people potentially shifting their focus for each LSB released

It's funny to read comments where people would leave the game if it weren't for LSB. This is a game about grinding. Everything in the game gives rewards. You get packs that are needed for certain events for even greater rewards. And receiving rewards, as well as accessing new characters, brings you pleasure in the game. And not getting them for money without knowing what to do with them and why you needed them. LSB is a cheat code that push you to the end. Remember the Veild shot? And what happened when he bought LSB? He just left the game with no word about it. Because its boring. LSBs are boring. And lazy.

CG could have increased the number of shads drops for these older characters.

The issue of whales and f2p is not only the emotional toll on some people time and effort be a joke thanks to few seconds and money.
The other reason is pvp some players want to be competitive and climb the submit and lets be honest there is times where little money makes huge gaps that cannot be overcome sometimes.
games need 3 different pvp categories f2p vs f2p, Whale vs whale and any vs any i understand it might to much effort to make such systems or is just greed and laziness of nothing making a good pvp.
My new account in grand era encounters only whales the teams have no synergy but wipe me out with out a chance feels discouraging.
While my older account has been lucky encounters the team are more synergetic but they dont feeel like 50 lv beyond just 1-5 making the encounter feel more human in way like is fair and i just need to play smart to win. games really need to learn that you can not mix some fishes with others in the same tank is bad and it only ends horrible more often then not.

I think this game is dying, makes sense why CG is giving all the lightspeed bundles

LSB hurts F2P who can’t get top 5 crystals fleet sooner than later because the bundle buyers are in the way on the fleet climb

I agree with @np99999 if you are FTP, what CG's wants to create and charge for as bundles should not stop you from playing. It might change parts of your game modes progression (ex. GAC or guild TW rewards). I bought most of the bundles to save myself time, but there is still so many things in-game I'm still learning and farm. Ships are so annoying to farm since you cannot create as many fleets like you can squads.

Side Topic: I want to play the different game modes as they were made, but a lot of these farms prevent that. I'm sure ROTE is a great guild event, but even with the current LSB I bought, I can only do phase one and the rest is just deployment. It would be nice if ROTE had GP levels like conquest so guilds could progress and put CG's "hard" work to use.

I played the game from launch till the release of the Yoda/Emperor legendary Events as life got in the way I came back last year around GL Leia release and I was overwhelmed with everything that I had missed and was behind, I didn't even realise what GL were for a month lol (then i descovered you and Ahnald and now im always up to date), but because of LSB, I can now catch up on alot of the things I missed, but because I missed so much time my progress is slower than most because of the amount to catch up, Id hardly say I whale but LSB bridge the gap and I probably wouldn't be playing if they didn't exist.

LSB don't bother you if you take the game your own way and maybe buy stuff that you don't weren't planning to farm

Like Tuskens or Jawas

In response to the catch up argument, jabba and leia bundles aren't catch up. If the bundle has 1-2 year old characters who everyone else has just finished grinding for then it's not catch up and that's the problem, these bundles make farming pointless, why not just wait a year for the bundles? LSBs were fine when it was 3 years or older, that was a catch up mechanic, these are not catch up bundles and you can't plan farming anymore, i could farm new characters but they might be 20 quid in a year.

Regarding the comment that said they are "going up against a bunch of noobs who bought all the LSBs and just do something and autowin"... yeah I don't understand what he is talking about. I am in Bronzium 3 at the moment and bought some (not all) of LSBs and have two GLs (Leia and Rey (Rey with the help of the LSBs)) and am constntly facing opponents with all 8 GLs and nearly all characters reliced or at least Gear 12 which is a pain in the butt, because they just put down three or four GLs in def first row and there is no way a small spender (that only buy LSBs) can push through that if they just started playing the game 1-2 years ago or as I did; return to the game after not playing since 2017. Without the LSBs I would have turn down the game again after a Year or so (which would have been april this year), because it becomes very frustrating if you are not able to get in to a decent guild and can't compete in PvP which slows your already slow farming even more down.

Why would I pay 300 dollars for a two month old account with 4.5 million GP just to get creampied by other 4.5 million GP accounts that are two or three years old. If they “fix” grand arena with GP sliders as well, most lose their incentive to buy

Wait did they say anything about a Leia bundle?

As a newer player that’s a lsb only player, I really like lsb as it allows for a necessary catch-up mechanic in a game this massive, especially with the push to focus on newer content. I was really intimidated starting about a year ago, as the game is really big, but lsb has allowed for me to play catch-up a little, which I think is helping new player retention for people willing to pay a little to get a head start.

If they kill the game would they compensate the the money spent in the game it won't affect me as I'm free to play but just a thought

I'm looking at getting the Jabba pack, I was working on the team and had just these left, I'm too close on the dash ship to buy that but not mad at them. I only buy these if it's a good value to me.

MtA

To BE fair lsbs give the Option to have nice Teams which you would simply Not get otherwise. Thinking of slkr, Ray, prepared scoundrills, night Sisters. All of those Teams are super fun to play but you cant get them If you want a efficient path to Farm stuff.jabba IS Not one of them to BE fair but Most lsbs follow the rule that the Units are Something that you would normaly Not Farm...

Old GAC was killed for 2 reasons:
1- The pettiness of players who would purposely drop their GP to get easier matches. Either by not activating characters or removing mods. Top GAC players were amazing to watch because it felt like a strategic game. Before DC or even before relics, mods were the only power threshold and it was really fun to outsmart your opponent by setting traps on defense or going offmeta on offense.
2- This is tied to 1. Because so many ppl didnt progress their GP on purpose, CG started to lose money. Majority of players became hoarders so no need to buy the packs or buy crystals. Thats why they took out crystals from arena and tied them almost exclusively to GAC. Now if you want the big payout you gotta be competitive. Furthermore, DC were included so whales can really get an edge. Back then, conquest didnt have the bonus nodes to farm DC so it was disgustingly P2W.

In anyway, imo it was us players that caused the good GAC to dissapear. CG just altered the deal. Maybe DC would have arrived anyway but if we had a good GAC mode, who knows. They would of dedicated resources to revamp TW instead.

If they fix GAC, the game will be in a great place for me.
Back when you didn't activate toons to not inflate your gp. Was very competitive. Now it's trash.

Farming is not dead. It’s just that we are going to be farming something other than characters. All of these LSBs may still require more gear, zetas and perhaps an omi. No. The only thing that has changed here is the farming focus.

I've been on both sides of the equation. I took a break from the game around the time relics came out so LS bundles let me get SLKR and Rey super quick. Which is great.

And I also hard farmed JML only to have his stuff be given away in LS bundles. Which.....I also think is great. I saved a few quid by farming for him, but happy for those who got him quickly by paying.

And for those who are mad at LS bundles, if you've been playing for ages you will still have a massive advantage in terms of mods, lifter toons and datacrons vs a LS bundle player. If you still can't win in GAC in spite of that advantage, I believe the kids call that a skill issue.

Of course GAC sucks for other reasons, but that's another matter.

I also like the grind of the game, but in my opinion its way too much, it should only take a few months to get a legendary character, when I talk about this with a "normal gamer" like friends of mine that we play Escape From Tarkov (a proper game not mobile, but also very grind focus) they hear me and think Im insane. Like we are all used to farming in swgoh taking years or multiple months, but if you play any other game outside of your phone you realise how insane this is. The only games that come close are stuff like Genshin Impact or Honkai, and they are gachas intended for phone too

Future of farming is gear

Younglings for grandmaster yoda and Jedi leaders
Yoda provides buffs and with each buff the younglings gain evasion per buff
Leader can not be defeated before all younglings have fled
Younglings attack out of turn with abilities putting them on cd
Younglings flee from battle leaving their Jedi master to finish the fight and each youngling grant their own unique padawans faith buff and effects to the Jedi leader
When all younglings flee grant unique ability “what are we going to do “ light side

If any version of anakin is in the leader slot all allies take true dmg on ally leaders turn adding that the damage to the attack
When all younglings have fled anakin grant “what are we going to do”s unique dark side ability in addition to padawans faith dark side effects

Younglings immune to damage over time effects

I started mid july and picked up a lot of the lsbs and hit 4mil start of this month. Its really disheartening seeing your farms get bundled wish there was a schedule for them or something

Omicrons? As a f2p player I do not care about those.. 95% of time they are worthless for me. Zetas on the other hand... Woo boy i would kill for like 200 Zetas

"Lightspeed bundles are meant to help you along your journey to acquire older but still powerful fan favorite SWGOH characters!"
Quote from initial announcement from over 1 year ago that appears to be forgotten and it still holds true today.

While I agree with all the LSB points, people should look at it as a guild not just their accounts. That Geo LSB gave me more Wat shards because other guild members brought it (I farmed my Geos). Currently LSBs also fill TB platoons/operations along with GP that leads to more stars.

Wow my comment is famous. I've finally made it.

I was going to farm out Jabba and then the P1 came out and I went from getting 400 crystals a day to 200 so I put Jabba on pause before all the kyrotech to farm out Profundity instead and I'm so glad that I did!

I'm buying them to have fun in GAC, and TW, and have fun in conquest with all my new toys. Seeing being so far and be like am I ever going to unlock that? LSB's allow me, but also players to engage in content. CG loses money if a large portion of the player base cannot engage in content and it causes those players to stop playing. LSB's also are a way to get fresh players into the game, and get top shelf power to engage in content.

Personally, with the amount of content that gets added in the game. LSB are but a patch for small spenders. I'd wish they add more methods for f2p players to catchup, Proving Grounds are a joke for example. On that note, buying many LSB sends you so down the zeta and mod hole where you sit for months, it's not an enjoyable experience.

Now I get what your saying that arturarturos comment was rude but didn’t you get made in your f2p GAC and said that you were better than all your opponents and they suck and that’s why your account is at that level and so is their even though they have more relics

But in my opinion, lightspeed bundles are good because they help low spends catch up and maybe into Kyber and they really don’t affect free to play except for giving them harder problems in grand arena, which I get is annoying, but you made the point to stay free to play and those people made the point to spend on those bundles so you can’t get mad that they wanted to catch up to people at the end of the game but that’s just my 2 cents

Ahnald’s f2p is proof after a point there isn’t much difference between p2w and f2p and cg doesn’t like that for long term players and is making plans for short term money with lsb and new episode model

Lightspeed Bundle = Time Management for Gearing

I feel like the Jabba bundle was brought forth (before other GLs) to help with the mod grind. SEE will be next with a Sith and Imperial Officer bundle that will have little LV overlap. Then LV bundles for clones will come along with Inquisitors

Reva bundle for $2.99! Will buy that one. 😅

Played in 2019 for 4 months, retired because of work and study advancement after padme journey event, came back 2024 because of work stress, surprised to see my R7 Grievous R5 jango (tank raid) and JKR squads at G12, read all the comments about starting over, glad I did not. No LSB no return, been patiently waiting for all to come back and got them all, now I got Jabba unlocked yesterday following the guide, and looking forward to BAM lsb recur (the last one) and onward to JML and Levi

"Why can't we floor people in Grand Arena? Why can't we say you can't be in Carbonite if you have 5m GP, and put everyone else in an inactive bucket?" This right here. I absolutely 100% agree this needs NEEDS to be a thing. No. I should not be facing 9, 10, 11+mil gp accounts in Aurodium. I myself should be in Kyber as I'm almost 9mil GP. But I keep getting sh** dumped on me because of the Kyber squish, with all these big Kyber level accounts dropping on my head like rancid feces and I struggle to even maintain my position. The ONLY reason it isn't a thing is because they fear they would discourage roster growth and GP growth, even when there is nothing but benefit to getting your GP as high as possible. In this case, making your GP bloated and swollen would give you better rewards by forcing you higher in GAC. It would mean more points in TB. It means quicker access to PG and Hard Conquest. And it means higher possibility to get into bigger, better guilds. There is NO reason not to grow your GP, but CG thinks players won't do that if there is a floor in GAC because CG can't think of a way to mitigate this problem, and you just solved it with "put people in an inactive bucket".

Man I was really looking forward to building a new pc. But all the light speed bundles did give me a swgoh to play my pc on 😅

My main account is completely F2P and I've grinded everything on that account myself over the last 7-8 years. The only characters that I haven't unlocked are the conquest ones.

LSBs can definitely boost progress, but there are, like was mentioned before, all the necessary pieces that still have to be added to those LSB teams in order for them to function like they should. I love being able to grind for everything. It gives me a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction knowing that I put in the work myself to complete it.

I've never understood the obsession with being competitive in a game like this. If that's your thing, then go for it. In my view, TW and GAC have always seemed like a contest of who's got the bigger set. It feels like a rally in tennis, with each player taking turns loudly grunting out theirs is bigger.