Should You Play Paladin in Hardcore WoW Classic?

Are you talking about WotLK hardcore? One of the 3 abilites on your thumbnail was introduced in TBC.

Paladins are really boring in vanilla. The problem with them is the endgame, healer-buffbot. Tankadin needs abit research not to be the meme drinking in every pull,engi is mandatory you cant even pull as paladin(cheap dynamite ftw), but in HC not having a taunt could easily kill someone in dire maul for example (warrior has taunt+aoe taunt+ mocking blow).Dont get me wrong i had fun lvling as tankadin 20-60 all the dungeons and UBRS. Ret is the lvling spec,and okey support for 5mans. Stay ret all the way, you can heal as ret if needed while lvling.

I leveled a tank paladin when classic came out and had a blast. I was forced to respec by my guild to healer and hated it. People who focus on dps and fast leveling should not pick a paladin. Those who focus on survival should pick a paladin.

Yeah its just too boring.

Paladin is either freakishly slow or if you go for glory every pull is a close call... surprisingly gear dependent as well. It really takes mental fortitude to hit 60 with it and salute to those that make it!

Retribution is not the fastest way to level a Paladin and incredibly dangerous in HC. Gearing up like a Warrior will ensure you have consistently low mana and will get you killed when sht hits the fan.

The safest, most efficient Paladin leveling build is speccing into Holy until Consecrate, then Prot to get 1H Weapon Specialization, grabbing any and all Of the Eagle mail, finding the fastest attack speed 1h weapon while spamming R3 SoR as it has a wonky spell coefficient that is incredibly efficient. You will churn through mobs and will be much safer when pulling multiple mobs. There's no contest.

I was already gonna go pally but man I'm so hype

should go prot pally for leveling
no joke. it's the hardest thing to die.

Leveling as Ret will get you killed. Relying on a slow weapon and Seal of Casino means you will get screwed by rng of consecutive misses-parries-dodges. And since you have a laughable mana pool with str gear you will be always oom. And oom paladin is just a worse version of warrior
Also why no Verigan's Fist in the list?

where is the point? even if i was guaranteed 100% to be level 60 with a class that i dont like to play, why bother? so i dont understand these videos, playing a class you dont want really to play just to get 60 is the most useless and pointless thing ever.

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Quick paladin facts:
-Very slow leveling: Base on auto atacks. So if you have any tv series to watch i 2nd monitor its good pick.
-Convicted to be healer in end game: dps pala is very bad, tank pala dont exist due to lack of taunt.
-"free mount" require 100 mana because its spell, so while leveling once you are going to spam judges to speed up mob killing you cant mount to move fast to another mob, so you need 100g to buy mount anyway.
- Leveling as ret but you want also have some spirit/int gear to heal dungeons. so you need have 2 sets of items, but stealing dps str/stamina items from warriors or spirit/int from mages will make you be cast out any normal party.
- There more cons of playing paladin, only pros are: Pala can survive alot to ultility like: heals, divine shield, lay of hands, bop etc. Its decent healer for end game and allways have a spot in raid due to ultility kit. Overall nice pick for paladin enjoyers but if some think about very serious raiding there are way way better picks.

Rock Pulverizor is a quest reward as low as lvl 30. 3.8 speed, 30+dps and +30 attack power. Get a group together and slap with this until you get a blue dungeon drop.

Honestly id level as tank spec. Get yourself a shield spike and pull 2-3 mobs at a time. The key point of tank pally is you kill 1 mob as fast as you can kill 3+. It will balance the slowness out with killing 3 at a time.
Might be good to go Ret until you can hit the bottom then respec for prot.

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Not mentioning Verigan's Fist? I understand it is hard/imppossible to do at 20 without boost, but it's a MASSIVE weapon at 20 when you can run Seal of Command.

PSA: In Hardcore, doing dungeons is one of the top leading causes of death. Party up at your own risk!

should you play wow at all?
no

I LOVE PALLY in hardcore so far totally different run. I put 5 points in prot and am now working my way up ret for pary and run speed. Probably go back to prot for more shield talents. (If I liv that long)

I think pally shield 1 handed is great for hardcore. Main reason you get high block bonus if u get critical hit against you and PARY with block and pary grinding green mobs for loot/exp is great they never hit you.

Nice video, but sanctity aura talent is just trash. Ur damage doesnt come from holy as retry as much as from physical damage. Imp retribution aura is much better.

Toyhouse Aka Julian glad to see u doing HC vids havent seena vid pop up on timeline havent talked to u since wotlk launch - p1 as we were both doing resto shaman being token sham healer's xD Im playin pally rn and its fun its solid seal of command smacks and u get 8% run speed 24/7 if u playin ret plus u can play risky and fun!

which Profession you would recommend for Paladins?

So my beef with this and other videos like it is that this assume someone is going Ret. That is not a great idea. Ret is the fastest way to level in classic but hardcore is all about those abilities that save you for just 3 or 4 more seconds. In the holy tree, that ability to stop healing knock back by 70% is what stops your character from dying. This is NOT CLASSIC. Stopping those few bad moments across the life of your character leveling is way more important than +5% dps right now. 75% to 80% of character don't see level 30, much less end game.

seems like pally builds should all find a way to get precision. those times when you get three or four dodge, miss, etc in a row feel rough.

tbf those numbers at the beginning are skewed because pally is only 1 faction

"subpar movementspeed talent" isnt it the best movementspeed talent in the game?

Paladin being super slow to level is not actually even true. Paladin is one of the few classes that can grind mobs without literally ever stopping to drink/eat. Just pick a good spot to grind.
Protection is by far the best talent spec for all solo content and leveling, full stop. It is also the most fun and active way to play with conceration+holy shield aoe gameplay.

Your popularity statements on both Shaman and Paladin are incorrect; You are looking at numbers that reflect both factions, and then numbers of the Paladin/Shaman that reflect only one faction; so if you were to divide dual faction classes like war/priest etc by 2, you would get the real % per realm; in which case makes Paladins one of the top popular class picks on Alliance

I always take these stats with a huge grain of salt because it really shows the difference between causation and correlation

This talent guide is booty

Great video. Horrible spec advice. go 2/2 imp ret aura, not sanc, i mean it doesn't take much math in your head to realise this is dogshit, don't get repentance lol, don't get judge cd, don't get strength in holy tree, get mana and pushback, get redoubt and hit% in prot. everything else is troll.

Surprised you didn't suggest the first 5 points into holy intellect boost and the next 5 into heal kickback avoidance (i forget the names of the talents). All of my paladin deaths have been due to too many mobs attacking me to get a heal off, and reducing the amount of kickback by 70% would absolutely have solved that

Repentance is such a waste of point...useless talent

ironically, i'm watching this video while leveling a paladin on hc on my second monitor

“Leveling weapon skills sucks as a paladin”

All I need to hear, this dude has never played a paladin. They’re literally the best class for leveling weapon skill because of seal of crusader

Weird to mention weapon progression without Smite's Hammer or Verigan's Fist.