BEST L Class Ships in 2022 - Patch 5.10 X4 Foundations - Captain Collins

Hey Captain ! Cheers ! :D

One thing that is weird when it comes to ranking Destroyers is that they are so cheap that you can easily just mass produce them and en mass their individual statistics doesn't really matter. Just simply build 20 with alternating anti-capital and anti-fighter loadouts and the resulting death ball is practically untouchable aside from a Xenon I with 2-3 K escorts. Even with the Syn if you have half of the fleet with Large Beam turrets their weakness to fighters is negated.

One of the downsides that came with the downgrading of the class from XL to L in X4. If battleships (old M2 destroyers) were more prolific and not just the occasional XEN I and Asgard, fielding destroyer death balls would be more risky and resource intensive.

What ship and loadout do you prefer dealing with xenon drone swarms when attacking stations?

i'm at the stage in my game where i need to start beating back the xenon and this is super helpful.

i've heard it can be risky to let even a 5 star pilot control a rattlesnake as they tend to blow themselves up. should I just go ahead and try it out anyway? I was also thinking about the odyseus + docked jian, but that might be too pricy

I really love the buffalo design, I prefer to use that ship just for its looks. I give it argon engines and its speed is amazing.

The joke of the Ratty is that it has M-class shields pretty much.

Hey Captain. Thanks for another video. However, the players get a free Syn if they do the TER campaign.

i stopped playing. Game is unplayable even for high end systems. i hope the devs focus on optimization.

in my Terran playthrough, split ships are becoming rare, I built up a fleet of Asgards and went after Frontier Edge, Atiya's Misfortune and Faulty Logic. I decided that area is a bit difficult to build in, more so than I originally thought. So, I decided to go look at Tharka's Cascade and that area, I went through a gate that I had no idea where it went other than Split Territory. Well, Zyartha Patriarchy is all but conquered and the Free Families aren't doing much better. Now I know why I keep losing Syn's at Heretics End and why I all but abandoned Hatikvah's Choice. Time to Rally the 68 Asgards I have and time to go pummel the Xenon something good.

Tharka's Cascade will be a nightmare, the system wide hazard will destroy the shields of my Asgards, it will take too long in my opinion to do the missions for that many Exceptional Ship Nanoweave but I have a plan, that is to send 10 ships through Tharka's Cascade into Split Territory, have them defend there, send another 10 through the Superhighway and defend there will the 48 Asgards I have left, take over the first Sector. Definitely sounds like a plan lol.

The Osaka destroyer for me every time. It's not the best destroyer but I love the sleek, high tech Terran look too much to chose anything else

Why does your game look better than mine when I have literally everything turned to max? Lol. Great video.

Hey Captain !
Thanks for your work about "best of" ships on X4 :)
I note some differences between last best of 😊👍
I'm still using the Rattlesnake since this last for my personnal use
keep doing good videos 😎😎
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Thanks for the video! I really like the new Odysseus E, because they look so sleek, and HOP keep sending them to Flashpoint II for me to 'liberate', so.. :)

Thank you for your analysis of the ships! Keep up the good work!

I hope we will get Borons, they always had some of the most beautiful ships in the game. With decend speed and good cargo capacity.
Plus their weapon placement usually was at least average or even better.
Not to mention the potential for nice story plots once the connection to the Borons is re-established, throwing the Status Quo off again.
Maybe we also get two factions, one tradition Queendom as the one from the old games, but i would like to see a faction with mentally deranged Borons that went full bloodlust.
That should get us several nice new ship designs in the game, for the old factions as well.

Don't both Paranid and Split L Plasma turrets have higher dps than argon?

split ships are among my favorite spaceships from actually all sci fi franchises

I'm surprised when you got to freighters, that you didn't bring up the Paranid. I feel like it's the best overall for hauling. It may not be the fastest, highest cargo, or tankiest, but it rates high up enough in every category that it's the jack of all trades.

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The Donia is a one-trick pony, but it's still the best solids miner... Seconded by the Plutus Miner Sentinel or Vanguard :EDIT: I meant the Chtonios E! Plutus is the best M-sized miner (always forget which one is better in terms of profit per hour).

For the trader, Sonra is great but very expensive, better to field Heron Vanguards for that price in my opinion (for two Sonra Vanguards, you can get 3 Herons). They also have slightly more cargo space. But Sonras, Shuyakus and Ircancatuas are definitely good if you don't care about cash or required resources to make them into your trader fleet.

Barbarossa is really good but if you fully kit it out, it's way too expensive for a trade ship and will take way too long to get a return on investment with its cargo size.

As for the destroyers, yeah definitely the Syn and Rattlesnake. I quite enjoy the Oddy E as well and use Phoenixes for OOS defence. But Rattlesnake squads are awesome.

I gotta go with the Syn. Its numerous Large Turrets help make a big difference especially when dealing with bigger targets, which I slap on Plasma. Despite having very few Medium Turrets, beams are good enough for the Fighter swarms, even if they kill them slowly but surely, or if you're feeling lucky, slap on Plasma there too. A lucky shot with the M Plasma would demolish S ships and punch holes in Ms. Flaks are good, but they are so troublesome IME, like all other projectile types, you'll need the S and M to roll their ship hard before they can really hit their target. With its strong shielding, its got great endurance, allowing for easier micro and macro. Three main guns for strong forward attacks, just 1 gun shy of the Rattlesnake. The one engine can be a major drawback if it's destroyed though. It's really slow and AA is weak if anything, but it's very much my go-to Destroyer. Terrans have really spoiled me. Though as someone said, mass enough of anything and individual stats doesn't really matter.

This will be useful when I start my next run! This gave me some ideas! :D

The Syn is my favorite destroyer, in no small part, because is the "offspring" of my favorite destroyer in X3TC, the ATF Tyr 😁
Plus, is a beast even with only terran tech (personaly, I'm a race tech purist, terran tech for terran ships and so on). For those that don't mind mixing tech, with L plasma turrets, is the poor man's Asgard, one can even mix 50% L beam + 50 % L plasma, to have a great anti capital anti fighter mix.
The Rattlesnake, is my second favorite. The problem I have with it is that, if one don't keep twisting and turning, 10 xenon M can kill you, its shield (as in just one shield) is that bad.
That being said, I've seen players clearing xenon sectors with it, but hit and run atacks are not my cup of tea 😋, I need my shields to get in the "face" of the enemy capital ships and pew pew them with my biggest guns 😁

I love the Syn. It is more like a cruiser for me, but it has one very bad point: one single L engine.
It is really easy to immobilize it and I do not recommand to engage heavy fighters group without escort.

I see that 5.10 is out, haven't played in a while. What fps do you get into lategame? Is this game still an unoptimized mess?

I would appreciate if you'd always say the faction where you can get the ships.

I can agree with syn being the best in a fleet, however for my personal destroyer I chose Osaka. It has less DPS but it's nimble, has decent placement of L turrets plus good M turrets and way better shields than rattlesnake. I still have my personal rattlesnake from before the Cradle of Humanity. When you get it fully modified it kinda behaves like a sluggish corvette, which is nice. Also I use split engines on my personal ships, travel speed is not abysmal and I way prefer the forward trust

Devs have put three nice platforms for turrets on Teuta, but noone ever placed them there. So i filled that emptiness with Erlking turrets and placed three main batteries for the pilot. Now I can make wrecks and swoop them for profits at the same time ))
Also did same thing to the Monitor (also made it a bit faster) as it's my favorite ship design in the game!

In this video, the captain unveils to is his impressive Snake.

Hi great video helped alot. Just a question what is the ship right at the end of video

For plasma turrets you dont need fast rotation. You need range first, and dps second. Because targets of plasma l or xl, they are dont move fast. I suppose split's turrets are better choice.
Thanks for your understandable pronunciation. I am learning english with pleasure, thanks to you, mr captain.

I like the Teladi Phoenixes for escorts. The pirates provide you with a bunch of them. Give them reasonable shielding, fill up the turrets, and assign one to each big mining ship. Then forget about them. Or you can crank up the shields, give them great turrets, and have a few escort your big-gun ships to clear off all the little stuff.

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I wish the buffalo had two shields 😢

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You're saying Frighters and it's confusing until looking at the tooltip in the video player

Barbarossa is great. For some reason smaller freighter are more often attacked by pirates. Barbarossa is fast, have great defense, and is rarely attacked.

how about mark4 engine?

What weapons are you using on the Rattlesnake? You mention turrets on the destroyers but not the weapons.

I usually play as a “Tech Purist” so no mixing of outside tech (TER ship can’t have ARG turrets).
In this case the rattlesnake is very powerful as TER missing any anti capital/station weapons (except Asgard main), even fighter don’t have Torpedos… makes a TER only tech fleet a challenge - Dump-fire missile is are sort of suitable…

Really enjoy the Syn, best loadout for me is PAR L Plasma in 1,2, 5.7 slots for anti-capital and stations and TER Lasers in the other 4 L slots. ARG M Bolts for the M turrets. At last Lasers are great against S, M ships to support the limited M turrets and thanks to the large class 105w x2 and up to x4 with optimal positioning thanks to the Syn's decent maneuverability can make short work of them better than anything else. No running to recharge suckers... you're dead. Don't really need ARG L Laser superior rotation and the Terrans have more power. Great visuals and sounds with these too, the rat a tat tat gets old, will probably replace a couple M turrets with missiles when I can restock them effortlessly for maximum variety.

Shame the AI doesn't use the main batteries against fighters however the player can melt M,S targets with these at range in a single burst, serious fun here!

Syn is not so difficult to get, one Shuyaku and he is captured, they also give out according to the story quest, which is a little longer than raising money for the first option... I also want to note the Odysseus of the new type E, an incredibly beautiful ship, there are enough M turrets, to defend against the fighters, the main battery is very strong, and 4 L turrets perfectly destroy K, in the hands of the player ...

Update 2023: I think the Ray is my favorite player Destroyer for the fact that Boron Engines do not have a travel charge up time.

Pros: Engine, NO TRAVEL CHARGE TIME!!. Shields are very strong (4x BOR L), incredible defense. Travel Speed is second, very fast. The Ray Ion Projector has interesting firing mechanics though, similar to other instant beam weapons with the added effect of heavy speed disruption on target. In my opinion, the Ray Ion Projector is the saving grace of the weapon compliment. The crew compliment is average, but coupled with the engines not having a charge time it does make an excellent Boarding operation platform.

Cons: The overall firepower is underwhelming, for sure, borderline pathetic.

You can obtain Syn for free for completing Terrans story missions.

It turns out that the Shuyaku and the Pelican (sentinel) are the best L freighters for time efficiency when hauling, taking out highways from the equation and all, which you should consider for L class ships. The pelican sentinel has 51,000 storage space, but almost half the mass of the Incar, whilst having 150k shielding as opposed to 100k shielding and 1 less M slot turret for defending itself than the Incar, which means that in terms of speed to storage space over distances of 1000km to 2000km in 4-6 jump gates, it often ranks very highly (3rd) using its native parts.

The Shuyaku is high ranking because it has more speed, so it outclasses the Pelican in longer distance hauls, this was figured out using a calculator. I personally think the Pelican is just the perfect freight ship in most cases because it has the most shielding and it has an excellent storage to speed ratio, making the Teladi one of the best trader races (which is what they're supposed to be good at), so, the Teladi usually don't get many big wins, but the freighters are really good.

It turns out over galaxy spanning distances that the Shark is one of the best, if not the best freighter, in the game.

Please add English subtitles. Sometimes I have trouble understanding. :/

I use to like the Syn before I discovered the Rattlesnake. I have mine with basic, just very basic engine mods and I cruise at 399 m/s in combat. That's faster than many small ships, faster than almost all Xenon ships outside of their scouts. I literally fly circles around Xenon K and I. If I get out gunned by a swarm of small ships I just fly away while anything unfortunate enough is close enough to chase me, it gets greeted by a flurry of M flak cannons. It's the best ship for me.

u compare raw stats and forgot something. x4 has top1 stupid ai ever exists. Compare how much time spend ai to rotate on 180 degrees and docking/undocking time. this stuffs is near 50% of all route time. Or racing for ai. Comparing raw stats is a trash, u havenot (cargo/time) parameter.