GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Uncharted 4: A Thief's End

Everything guy who paints climbable ledges white has done:
Painted climbable ledges white
In UC4 he put in these random walls that the 'piton' can stick to
Put ropes around everything you can rope to
Cut away bark on trees you can winch.
Put in some ledges that break
In UC2 he covered some ledges in snow
Never is seen in the games

Sin 125, it wasn’t the fact that he was doing illegal things it was the fact that he lied to her about it and Sam the entire time. He could have died at any point and she would have had no idea about it.

The one thing that actually ticked me is that the old lady dying, under any realistic police investigation, would not implicate Nate and Sam. A wealthy old woman dead with no visible external injuries, even after calling about a break in, would have the medical examiner either:
A: Conclude death was by natural causes,
B: Conduct an autopsy, and find the death was from horribly-timed-old-person-disease.

I'm absolutely certain that they had the knowledge to determine so in the 80s/90s when that scene took place. So while Nate and Sam would still be charged with some sorta burglary, inevitably nothing would have been so horrendously bad as to change identities to dodge it.

So, TL:DR, Nate and Sam's entire namesake and supposed purpose in life is born out of a really thin contrivance.

It took me so long (up to chapter 12) to realise this game is only about Henry Avery treasuer

haha so accurate love it

Who cares how many sins this is the best came ever!!!

Funny!

Holy shit, that PS5 line though…

You do know that when the guard was explaining about Henry Avery that was for us to know

Nate and Elena relationship is the best in gaming

6 years late but Nadine is from New Zealand not England

Why do nuns in a Colombian orphanage speak perfect English?

The biggest sin of U4 is them not adding doughnut drake

It's actually the third time the series used the 'character-who-is-meant-to-be-dead-actually-isn't' thing.
Once in Uncharted 1 (Sully)
Once in Uncharted 3 (Sully again)
And in this game with Sam.

in uncharted 3 nate sully and cutter in the gold deer room while they getting out of thre nate says to cutter take the disc so he did take the disc from marlowe

bro you dont know how they live . Do you even like uncharted?

The biggest sin is them modeling Nathan Drake on Nathan Fillion and then not making a movie with him.

How is the first scene in the game paying homage to the first game, a sin? Like bro wtf

U hate every game lol

She's south African

I also don’t think Sam would have been kept in prison in Panama because he didn’t really commit any crimes there or was panamanian, he just got snuck in by a guard, yes they killed a guard but I think that still would have gotten him deported and into a US state pen instead.

Why was Sam so obsessed with the Avery treasure, but not with Iram of the Pillars? Since Francis Drake was involved in that, it seems like it would also catch his attention right?

Yall Fucking Suck ALL OF THE GAMES ARE GOOD ( fuck the movie tho) THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY BEAUTIFUL

The sins for implausabilities in the story about the drug lord prison escape shouldn't count because those were all made up.

Bro doesn’t know what indicators are

I think Nadine is South African not British.

And it’s 2023 and PlayStation five is out on the account of me watching this 😅

Nathan had literally no reason whatsoever to lie to Elena about any of this. Never mind the simple fact that she is his WIFE, but that she isn't some cute girl next door that he ran into at a Walmart. They met during a treasure hunt. Of course, she would understand why he has to do this. Sam can also piss off. He made up a fake story and lied to his brother, endangering his life and possibly costing Elena her husband just to satisfy his treasure boner. This game was great, but the characters were douchebags.

its 2023 now and the ps5 is released lmao

Instant respect and instant subscription for seeing through the Nadine fights’ pure unadulterated nonsense, hoooooly crap it’s so nice seeing someone else with a frontal lobe.

Uncharted games don't make any sense if you lump them all together as canon. Just pretend U1 & U3 (Amy Hennig's timeline version of Nate, the titles are colored yellow) are in a different timeline universe together separate from U2 & U4, and U2 & U4 (Bruce Straley & Neil Druckmann's timeline version of Nate , titles colored orange/red) are sequels to each other only. Ignore the titles where they are numbered 2, 3, 4, because this is misleading. They aren't sequels to each other but it means that Naughty Dog made a 2nd, 3rd, & 4th game with each team taking a turn with the next installment. Example: Amy did Everyman Nate version (U:DF), next Bruce's modern, cinematic version of Nate (U2), then Amy again with Justin Richmond & a sequel & ending to U:DF (U3), & then Bruce's sequel, backstory, & ending of Nate in U2 in (U4) & last U:LL adds a possible ending for Sam, Chloe, & Nadine Ross. Makes more sense.

Amy's Nate: U:DF & U3 which isn't connected to U2 or U4. U3 is Amy's improvement, continuation, sequel, & ending to U:DF timeline. Amy's version is 1985, 2001, & 2005; 1980's & early 2000s; she aims it at girls, women, older generation players, PS1/PS2 players, etc.; that's why the games are harder). Nate here is Columbian, is born in 1970, is an only child orphan, is taller, & has no luck with women (he literally tells Elena this in U:DF in so many words), has Father-Son-Like relationship with Sully, has a strong sexual energy/presence with Elena (they almost kiss each other multiple times & constantly flirt with each other), is sober, a reader, researcher, smart, not very trusting (he is reluctant to give Roman & Navarro his map in U:DF, doesn't believe Elena when she suggests Sully is backstabbing them (U:DF), & doesn't easily believe Marlowe about Sully being a traitor in U3), he doesn't read out maps in front of obvious enemies (U:DF), he doesn't recommend coping down maps to Sully in (U3), he is more muscular, a fighter, determined, soft spoken, an Everyman type like Bilbo & Frodo Baggins, Freddie Prinze Jr., Josh Hartnett, Scott Grimes (Critters), James Stewart, John Cusack, Aladdin (1992), Bill Paxton, Sean Connery (James Bond), Ronald Weasley, Rick O' Connell (The Mummy 1 & 2), Bruce Campbell, Brian Johnson, John McClane (Die Hard 1 & 2), Alex O' Connell, Christian Slater, Nicholas Cage (Benjamin Franklin Gates), Thomas Jane, Paul Rudd, John Candy, Dennis Quaid, William Fox Mulder, Luke Wilson, Jack Bauer (Season 1 & 2 UDF & 5 U3), James Hammerton & Nolan North. They are all either determined fighters or very soft spoken comedic Everyman types. There is a picture in Nate's journal in U2 of Nate & Sully from U:DF that shows them in Costa Rica in 2001 probably when their expedition took place & contract with Elena. Sully is 56 in (U:DF) & 60 in (U3:DD) & he tells Nate in U3 that he has 25 years on him. Nate is 15 (Young Nate in U3), 31 (U:DF), & 35 (U3).

Bruce's Nate: (U2, U4), & U:LL different directors; these 3 games are mostly plot, things just happen, no real emotional depth to characters, & your not meant to think, just do; more high dynamic range filter cinematics; these games are easier than U:DF & U3; aimed at boys, men, younger generation, PS3/PS4/PS5/modern generation players, etc.), 2 & 4 has a more PG/PG-13 sympathetic tone for Nate so that he isn't hateable, he has had many women flings (his journal in U2 lists 9 with their phone numbers starting in 1996-2008, he meets Elena possibly last, she was "last year's model," & he has a flower next to their names), he was born 1976, he is shorter (5'11" than Sully 6'3" (In the other games he is taller; Sully & Nate's roles are reversed in U2 & U4 & they don't have the Father-Son-Like relationship), has a very tense, strained relationship with Elena & they kiss directly in these 2 games; has a daughter & brother, hard spoken, he drinks, is cocky, he reads his maps out in front of obvious villains (Chloe, Harry, Zoran, etc.) & let's them be seized easier,(has a passive defeatist attitude, he is toned down to a PG PG-13 rating, he is not very careful, too trusting/forgiving (Chloe, Harry Flynn, Nadine Ross, Sam, Rafe Adler), naive, younger, de-aged, pretty boy, miserable, unkempt, unbeliever (in myths: U2), a broken man, a liar, heartbreaker, a money waster, a follower, a wild child, a thief, the bastard son, criminal runaway, snappy, unhappy, tone-deaf, two-timer, a tortured soul, the troubled young man, is Americanized, & can't really fight at many points. Nate is similar to many film characters in their downfallen states: He is Tom Cruise (Mission Impossible), Ben Sanderson drunk, Florentino Ariza (keeps a Journal, many flings), Ian Stone, John Connor, Josh & Sam, Daniel Craig (James Bond), Rick O' Connell (The Mummy 3), Indiana Jones (Temple of Doom), 13 going on 30 (Matt), Edward Cullen & Bella, Leonardo DiCaprio (Critters 3), Jack Bauer (Season 3,4,6,7,8), Owen Wilson (a flirter), Michael Townley/DeSanta, John McClane (Die Hard With A Vengeance).

U2 & U4 have militaristic mercenary rhino tanks, U1 & U3 don't. 2 & 4 use dark filters or colors and have a darker story tone.

In U1 & U3, Nate doesn't have a brother & Charlie Cutter & Chloe Fraser only work with Nate & Sully as business associates. Chloe & Cutter leave around the middle of the game (U3) when Cutter breaks his leg & Chloe tells Nate that the "whole thing was too close" the mission "isn't worth it." Chloe is cast different from U2, U4, & U:LL. She is more sympathetic & caring when a team member is injured. This is opposite to the other games (Jeff, Elena, Nate in U2 where she is willing to leave them to die at the hands of Zoran & Sam in U:LL when he saves Nadine & they show no gratitude, etc.).

In U2 & U4, Nate and Chloe are seeing each other (U2). Nate ends up with Elena at the end of U2.

Nate's ring is destroyed in U3. In U4, Cassie finds Nate's disc/astrolabe/decoder in the closet next to the ring (possible Easter egg/honorable mentions for fans).

Borneo, Nepal, Karl Scháfer, Tibet, Shambala, Zoran Lazarevich, Harry Flynn, the resin, Marco Polo, cameraman Jeff Wynia, the dagger, Nate & a brother in a Panamanian jail, & Tenzin are not mentioned in U1 or U3.

All the games do have jokes, callbacks, homages, references, easter eggs, etc. about the other games.

They are all still Uncharted games because of the exploring lost cities, climbing, traveling, shooting, etc. and you can still play them in any order. They are also structured like a movie because of the cutscenes.

goddam dude now i see this video and i can say for sure ur brainwashed
jeez get some milk

“He was actually about the same height as you” 😭

They should be in jail after killing all those soldiers for no reason like don't they have families to look for them?

Are we not gonna question the timing of Elena showing up to Madagascar considering that when Nate called her she was still at home then sam,Nate, and Sully were in a rush to find the towers we have to assume they rented out the car then got the motel and went to find the volcano with the towers all within the same day so Elena catching a plane to Madagascar and finding where they are staying just doesn't add up cause it takes 26-18 hours to get there from plane

Let me throw another sin sam had a bright idea to trick Nadine to pick up the cross and back off the platform for her to fall to her death but Nate ruins this by telling her it's not a crucifix making her suspicious I would think if Nate really wanted her men off of them he would have let sams plan run as smooth as possible

There is nothing wrong with the game

This game seemed so impressive and large in scale when I first bought and completed it on its release. Going back and replaying it a few months ago, I was startled and disappointed by how mundane, slow and boring it was. You spend far, fr too much time plodding around and climbing things which are almost impossible to fall off, and Drake has been emasculated. He's fought off gangs of well trained soldiers, yet Nadine beat him to a pulp because Naughty Dog wanted a Strong Independent Black Woman, and you obviously can't be any of those things without beating up a white guy. It seems like during those sections Nate simply forgot how to fight and defend himself. Way to go, Naughty Dog: force the gamer to spend what feels like an eternity having a fight you've predetermined the main character can't win. She didn't outwit him with a clever scheme, or by surprising him with a well thought out plan, she just smashed in the face of one of gaming's best ever fist fighters.

If Naughty Dog ever resurrect Uncharted, it would have to be with an entirely new team of writers and programmers, because I'd not touch stupidity like this ever again, especially when they doubled down on their Woke "story telling" in the grim yet laughable The Last of Us Part 2.

Anyone else think Nadine is not so important character and had no wait to the story at all whatsoever