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What do you think about slapchop? Is it worth the hype? Is it just a fad?
ОтветитьI loved your detailed explaination on the dry brush part. Helped me understand what I was doing wrong.
ОтветитьI find a piece of cardboard to be best at removing moisture from a drybrush.
Idk why or how, but it gives the best results for me
The contrasting undercolor reminds me of the technique used by raphael to achieve an iridescent effect, ARTEnet has a very good video on this. I feel like it would be difficult to achieve on a miniature, but certainly possible! Great video.
ОтветитьSlapchop has been around for DECADES; drybrushing is a MISNOMER. You MUST have a little moisure on the brush to help prevent streaking or the overly dusty effect. A small slightly damp sponge is best for giving the domed brush the proper amount of moisture
ОтветитьNever use paper towels, you leave fibres on the model. You should buy a textured palette, or a flat piece of wood/card :)
ОтветитьThank you for the recommendations!!
ОтветитьI really appreciated this video because a lot of you tried are questions I asked myself.
ОтветитьWhen doing the wash method your model should be upside-down. This way the wash better collects where the shadows are. I use this method: prime mid tone grey, apply black wash to an invertesd model, white dry brush. Then apply transparent paint through airbrush or contrast paint.
ОтветитьHehehe, I like how people watched Artis Opus videos on the same technic and all of a sudden there's an army of professional dry brushers, who feels oblidged to tell every creator about the proper way of drybrushing because those "professional drybrushers" knew it all along and for years, but surprisingly began to raise the topic only after Artus Opus =)) What a bunch...
ОтветитьNot sure if this is satire. Most of the tips are fine but you should not use a paper towel to remove excess paint. Also your brush should be damp not completely dry. If your brush is too dry it can leave a chalky Finnish.
ОтветитьNicely done.
I especially like you showing the results of different types of paints.
I have always liked using inks.
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I love you.
ОтветитьWow! Nice video.
ОтветитьThanks for this vid, very helpful. I just picked up a domed brush to try this approach. I like that you also showed the white prime with dark wash. So, many painters never address this. I do it all the time, though I do have puddling or coffee staining issues. I prime white and usually off-white then do a dark wash berfore doing my transparent color. Is it just that I like brighter finishes? Do you think the black prime white brush give more of a zenithal effect?
ОтветитьFor color chop you want to use temperature theory to help you. To give an example, If your final transparent color is going to be a cool yellow then a muted warm dark pink might be best as a base color. When you apply the yellow inks This creates a transition between a dull cool orange to a striking bright yellow highlight.
Another way to approach is with complementary colors. If you're final highlight color is say a purple a yellowish base coat or mid coat would be choice. As when the purple covers a complimentary color it makes mud brown which can in some circumstances create the illusion of a color darker than black.
Another idea is to do two mid coats. One 50% white another 190% and then your highlight I'd actually a shade darker then the second midtone (90%). This can create a saturated glowing edge you can also go 0-65-50-100 for a saturated core shadow look.
Yeah dude. I seen guys doing skellies back in WHFB with this technique, just using stuff like chestnut ink. also Tyler Mengel paints all his stuff this way.
ОтветитьIf this woman likes hockey then I’m getting a divorce!
ОтветитьEvery single one of these finished minis look absolutely horrendous.
ОтветитьDry brush = Slap shop in that case Airbrush = easy button.
ОтветитьThis "technique" is a mistake
ОтветитьFor a while I’ve been painting like this mixed with zenithal . The the zenny with a can or my airbrush and then highlight different gradients with a dry brush, often in different colors. Let’s you get tons of complex gradients for just a little extra work
ОтветитьI actually cut down my slap chop time, even more. I prime black for dark models, buy use field grey or mechanicus grey for lighter colored minis.
When I apply the middle coat, I use a nice can of spray primer (like a scale75 or vallejo primer) to apply the middle grey coat by applying it at about a 55 degree angle; don't get the can too close or too far away. I use nice primers for it because the spray primers by them don't speckle over the black base coat. Cuts so much extra time off
Is that a Cainhurst armor? Sorry, i see it now, and the others too. Love Bloodborne, cool vid thanks4
ОтветитьNever use paper towels when dry brushing, it will result in what you can see in this video: A chalky finish.
Artist Opus actually recommend using a slightly damp sponge when dry brushing, to further prevent this typically unwanted effect.
Thanks for all the tips and explaining them so well! LOVE all the Bloodborne minsi!
Ответитьthat was a lot of contrast paint on the brush.
ОтветитьWas that a Cainhurst ghost girl from bloodborne? I don't remember them wearing blue.
ОтветитьI read a magazine by P3 Paints ages ago and it used a similar technique. This was before contrast paints though. Anyway, can speed up the process and give a more natural feel if you prime black, from a 45 degree angle spray or airbrush prime your mid gray, and from very top spray or airbrush white primer. Let the paint naturally fall where it's going to fall. THEN contrast paint. Will definitely add some speed to your results!
ОтветитьStatue? She looked undead
ОтветитьHow do ya avoid chalkiness with dry brushing?
ОтветитьMiniwitch, do not get your drybrush wet, yet, stupid question, do you wash it?
ОтветитьI had the same experience with contrast paint regarding having to thin it down for slapchop. Applying it immediately was way too opaque. What about Army Painter, did you thin them down as well?
ОтветитьSlapchop robs got way putting things
ОтветитьUsing a 'domed' brush for drybrushing.. Where do I get one to try? Is that a makeup brush?
ОтветитьWhy us everyone calling underpaint "slapchop"?
ОтветитьIt may be me doing it wrong but applying any dark Citadel contrast paint just erases all the dry brushing. I end up having to recess wash and highlight again.
Ответитьhey we did this back in the 80's. Greetings from Belgium. Im 59. 😉
ОтветитьGreat video, there were a few ideas I wanted to test and now I know how to do them
ОтветитьIf you want to drybrush, don't use acrylic paint. Use oil paints. You will be able to use a paper towel and your paint will still have some medium to be dry brushed correctly.
ОтветитьWhat are the figures that you’re painting in this video
ОтветитьI tried slapchop recently and it really wasn't for me. I felt like it took longer to do to a "Table Ready" standard using that method than use regular painting and washes. I feel you need to be extremely careful applying the contrast/ink because one wrong move and you can taint an area that you wanted a different colour and then it's hard to reverse and keep the illusion of the lighting. That's the great thing about painting though, different techniques and styles give different results. Some might suit you, others not. As long as you are enjoying yourself whilst you do it, it's all good.
ОтветитьGood video, but the thing about contrast paints is that each color, weirdly, kind of behaves differently because of the vastly, VASTLY different amount of pigment used per color. The blue, that you used for example, uses a lot of pigment, so it gets really weird and ugly when you try to use it on cloth/fabricy surfaces - it's more designed for stuff like Space Marine armor with a two-layer application. Meanwhile, something like Skeleton Horde is much more similar to a wash because it's super, super thin. And then there's middle grounds like Nazreg Yellow, which regardless of surface types, always somehow seems to give you an absolutely perfect coverage.
Contrast paints are amazing, but the annoying thing about them is, you really need to experiment with each one individually, which can be very time-consuming and obnoxious, kind of defeating the purpose of slap chopping. At least, at the beginning! Once you get a feel for the paints, go wild I guess!
Army Painter's Speedpaint is crap, btw. Absolutely horrid. Applying a second layer reactivates the first. Which is just.....amazing, in all the worst ways.
Do you put the speed paints on a wet pallet?
Ответитьi think its great for knocking out an army fast and looking good
ОтветитьSlapchop was first used in the 14th century, it's nothing new people
ОтветитьWhat did you thin the inks with? Glaze medium?
ОтветитьIs there an advantage of this over airbrushing your mid tones and zenithal coat?
ОтветитьA good technique is to use a thin-ish coat of contrast paint to color. Then an oil wash to shade.
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