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Nothing seems to touch xcom2. 😕
ОтветитьIf you make a list of the best turn-based strategy games and don't include Heroes of Might Magic 3 in this list, then I can't take this list seriously. The game by far is one the best games for PC ever written and still enjoyable almost 25 years later, and you don't even mention a classical game that most of these games are built upon.
ОтветитьI love planetfall so much
ОтветитьMissing 2 things, Himeko sutory , and troubleshooter: abandonned children
ОтветитьWhat game is the one in the thumbnail? The one you see before clicking the video? Looks like an awesome character.
Ответитьno Kings Bounty or HOMM3? Then i guess the list focuses on the newer stuff
ОтветитьMan, I m sure you are proud of your in between titles animation, but nobody got time to wait for a "loading" widget, It's a dislike and see you next time from me.
ОтветитьGreat follow on from part 1, you have all my favourite games and some I want to check out now.
ОтветитьHow is there not a single Disgaea
ОтветитьAren't some mentioned Games not crpg's or tactical rpg's and not strategy games?
ОтветитьHey good job on both videos! Totally agree with places of my all-time favourite games like Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 3, Age of Wonders Planetfall and XCOM! You're really nailed it up. Was strange to miss Heroes of Might and Magic (along with King's Bounty) game series, as those were first TBS ever made. Regarding Pathfinder it was the worst experience I've ever had in video games. In all good previous games even if you're not familiar with them, you can play on harder difficulties and enjoy the game and challenge a lot! But Pathfinder... Let's say it straight, game on hard difficulties be like "1)cast fireball and roll dice 2) it isn't 20?> 3) reload the save". And it's just plain stupid. I want to play tactical game, I don't f****g want play luck and loading simulator, seriously, the part of game which take 15 minutes on casual will take over 6 damn hours on harder difficulties, because of loadings and constant resting. It's just probably the worst TBS I've ever played. I kinda can just go roll through whole game on casual without ever dying, but what's the point? Game doesn't reward you anything, it's just constant buffing, resting reloading between each battle, that's so tedious! And there like really no "tactical" part in that game at all. In Age of Wonders by doing smart moves you can win unfair battles, but in pathfinder regular creep can just 1x6 wipe your whole party.
ОтветитьGears Tactics is awesome
ОтветитьXcom is one of the best for sure and it's 10 years old but still looks ok and is very fun.
ОтветитьNice list. Oh well i really want Jagged Alliance 3 to be good but i doubt it. JA 2 is so unique. The battles, the dynamic map enemy movement, the rpg elements, the loot...
What do you guys think of Gears Tactics?
The Last Spell & Songs of Conquest
ОтветитьWhat makes the banner saga not one of the top strategy games in my mind is the length to complete them. Each one was maybe 12 to 15 hours long. All 4 banner sagas might just be at 40 hours to beat which is too short being that it’s 3 games. I had to pay a game price for each banner saga so I would say it’s really not worth it unless you can get all 3 games for one low price.
ОтветитьGloomhaven may be awesome but sucks on the tutorial, I had to return the purchase
ОтветитьThese games are mostly awesome, i dont get why so many downvotes.
ОтветитьSome games which I feel could have made it even in the first part of this list:
1. Darkest Dungeon
2. Slay the Spire
3. Star Traders: Frontiers (sort of Elite with turn based ship combat mixed with Darkest Dungeon style ground combat, very deep)
and for the second list:
1. Songs of Conquest (if you liked HOMM 3 you will like this)
2. Othercide (another well made game with the XCOM formula)
3. Endless Legend
4. Into the Breach
Surprised that Jupiter Hell didn't make the list. One of the best turn-based tactical RPGs I've ever played, features a kickass heavy metal soundtrack. Worth a look. Other honorable mentions are Shattered Pixel Dungeon and Shattered Planet (unrelated despite the names) as well as Loop Hero, which is a weirdly good take on the intersection of idle-RPGs and turn-based strategic RPGs.
ОтветитьDivinity:Original Sin 1 and 2 for sure. Awesome games.
ОтветитьNow i have a lot of Games to play, thx! 👍🏻
Ответитьi kinda stop touching Phoenix Point after i done with the ending (back when there only Blood and Titanium DLC) so did they fixed some annoying problem with the game yet?
like the way your base defend force you to spread your troop so thin through out your base and make it wasted your time gather them together to proper defend the choke point or how the vehicle has no upgrade so they basically a waste of space.
Anu also the only one with resource building so if you want other resource, you have to keep raiding other factions but since the game has no quick resolve, it became rather tedious after awhile too which also the reason why i kinda stop after finish the game the first time.
This and part 1 were great videos, I learned about a lot of games I wouldn't have otherwise checked out! Thanks for these compilations, you're doing good work out here.
ОтветитьGreat video thanks, you should checkout Wartales as well!
ОтветитьI'd toss on the list: "Ash of Gods: Redemption", "Dark Deity", "Vestaria Saga 1: War of the Scions", & "Wargroove". All highly enjoyable for the turn-based strategy gamer.
ОтветитьI'm not frustrated or anything, I just find it bizzare to put Jagged Alliance 2 that low, especially if the same list has XCOM 2, and somehow XCOM 2 higher. I bet the graphic has a lot of things to do with it, because if we were to dive into them JA2 alone surpasses every XCOM game, combined and even modded.
If JA2 modded then it's GG for the whole TBT genre.
JA2 still valid :O ... we just havent evolve enough to surrpass that masterpiece.
Other than that .... Songs of Conquest and Old World ... Iron Oath and plenty more ..
I can understand some old dogs are not present like HOMM or the original UFO/XCOM, so just some additions:
- Xenonauts: For those who wouldn't adapt to modern XCOM, Xenonauts is an excellent sequel to the original saga, but in a modern engine.
- Darkest Dungeon: No clue why this is not in the list, absolute masterpiece
- Endless Space 2: Fort those sci-fi lovers
- Worms... well, why not? :D
Thea: The awakening. Very good turn-based survival / crafting indie game where you play a bunch of villagers trying to restore the lost power of the gods. One of my all times favorites.
ОтветитьPanzer General series
Original XCOM series
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 (the GOAT)
Master of Orion (and other turn based 4X games)
Incubation - This one is fun, modern Xcom like
Warhammer: chaosgate deserves a place on this Vid. Enjoyed it as much as X-Coms 2
ОтветитьChess is available on PC.
ОтветитьOthercide
ОтветитьSo civiliazation here. but they steal many content from Endless Space 2 and Endless legend Turn based games.And this games a realy good.
ОтветитьFallout 1, Fallout 2, Atom, Atom rpg trudograd, Fallout Tactics, Wasteland 2 and Wasteland 3 are the best!
ОтветитьI'm still pissed at Epic/Phoenix Point for poaching a CROWDFUNDED game for exclusivity... but I also played a bit of it when I had 3 months of Games Pass that came free with my new laptop. It's trash. It's boring. The story SUCKS, the characters are nearly non-existent, and the gameplay has ONE gimmick but still isn't as good as XCOM. not only should it not be so high on this list, imo it shouldn't be on the list at all.
ОтветитьThere’s also Battle for Wesnoth, which I know isn’t new but still a reallly good classic with several different campaigns and difficulties. Lovely art work and soundtrack. Story can be immersive depending on the ones that you choose.
Ответитьtry ATOM (Trudograd)
ОтветитьCheck out Phantom Brigade, it's still in early access but it's a really unique simultaneous action turn based tactics game with mechs!
ОтветитьYour lists are good, but I believe you really should have mentioned "Troubleshooter - Abandoned Children". Many people discard it as "Anime XCOM" but its combat system is far superior to XCOM and it has an excellent story with a lovable cast of characters.
ОтветитьToEE, Phantom Doctrine, Fallout Tactics, Gorky 17, Into the Breach, COPS 2170 (Власть Закона).
ОтветитьWhy do you include early-access games?
Ответитьnot sure if battletech got a mention same as xcom play the OG then install the mod Rogutech Treadnought, its longwar for Battletech but you must have a decent computer to run it otherwise its slow
ОтветитьI love your voice man... Really.. very beautiful like the voice of male angel..
ОтветитьYou have solid recommendations, subbed ;)
ОтветитьPathfinder WotR is also my #1. It's surprisingly excellent
ОтветитьNo mention of Troubleshooter ? TW WH3 ? And WH40K Chaos Gate, but it's been released just some days after your vid !
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