Snoke's Fleet (The Last Jedi) vs The Imperial Fleet at Endor | Star Wars: Who Would Win

empire a massive fleet come out of hyperspace
death star: hold my beer

The empire was stronger then the first order yea but I think it would be way cooler to be a general in the first order then in the empire

Depends.... Are we using disney ftl ramming as cannon or not? Cause if so the whole concept is fuqin pointless.

Seems how star wars shows power is by just make ships bigger and bigger kinda unimaginative

The resurgences will cover for the mega destroyer

Darth Vader Death squadron and grand admiral thrawn vs The first order Super star destroyer

Galactic Empire would win without suffering any significant losses and here is why.

Both galactic Empire and Snoke fleet have matching firepower as to ships, snokes big "!wing" is akin to Death Star, etc, so ship to ship the matchup is close enough to be equal
Now comes the commaders, here we have on both sides both very good ones and for the most part incompetent ones holding positions due to nepotism and not merit

then comes the supreme leaders and here is where galactic empire winns and also why they suffer close no losses at all, maybe a disbaled TIE fighter at best.

Kylo Ren, a very volitie and Emotional and Immature person who allows himself to throw fits and act 1/3 his age in maturity.
This of course will also influence Kylo Ren's ability to make well founded and highly strategic decitions rather than allow for the "trending in the time of movie creation" the imnpoertance of his feelings. becuse of his inabiluty to have this level of control he wil never make the same effective strategic and tactica decitions as the well tranied and not allowing emptions to run over but to stay professionally foced Imperial Officers hands down win.

what equiment they use is not a factor in any way, the empire will win always and even with one person unarmed against all of snoke's forces, becuse of their commader KYlo Ren, needs only to be a little "upset" and loose everything that has to do with focus and go be "emotional"

What about a 3 way duel, Last Order, First order with Starkiller Base plus the MSD, and the Empire with both Death stars?

What if both sides hyper rammed each other, i mean wirh all this new disney logic we may as well just chuck all these ships into a giant blender and turn it on. Space battle logic was destroyed thanks to trying to save that looney lady not doing anything and running till they all ran out of fuel, putting shame onto Andor like "what does he know". All those ships with tons of people died. She should of just gracefully rammed the main ship and did a little pointless damage while Andor saves the fleeing refugees. Nope, we gotta make a political statement first, while needless deaths occur by dying ships, as we all flee. I mean, if the main ship was tracked, why not command the rest of the fleet to jump out, they're not even on the to-do list, they were after the main ship. Nope, gotta let them all slowly crawl with the ship they should be evacuating into the other ships and sac it. This is done plenty in Eve online. If a titan is shit outta luck, the rest must jump out. Theres no point to needless loss.

Snoke's flotila Undefeatable? No. Not even close. I'd say Grievous's fleet at courscant would be able to take it (legends especially) solely due to the shear magnitude of starfighters would be involved. Droid Tri fighters are one of if not the best interceptors in star wars. The size of a battleship truly doesn't make it the best, Lucrehulk battleships (not control ships) are smaller but that doesn't always mean they lose, it took an entire group of ships to take down ONE. If Grievous is involved it'll be even worse because Grievous was holding back during Courscant but here he wouldn't need to and he's wicked smart when fully unleashed.


What fleet would I command out of the 2 mentioned? Personally? Imperial. I love the SSD honestly

Thank you but half the people here are biased for the empire and will have a dumb reason as to why they would win

If you just put thrawn incharge of endor fleet, then firest order is literalyt dead. Also cannon you can lightspeed into the fleets.

i would command a impeirl fleet

“As long as the Empire is smart…” basically the First Order wins both rounds.

FO: Better ships, incompetent command
Empire: More ships, competent command
Its really anyones game

I think that if the first order place all the star destroyers in the front the msd will survive because the death star cant aim that accurate and the tec can scan the death star and see that hole and the sheild where on the planet so if it was on a differante planet it wont be counted in

Both should've destroyed the rebels if they ACTUAL FAUGHT THEM! C'MON THE IMPERIALS JUST SAT THERE AND SNOKES FLEET HAD THOUSANDS OF TIE FIGHTERS AT THEIR DISPOSAL AND CHOSE TO LAUNCH THREE OF THEM!

What about just star destroyers without death star and sepremacy. You give one side thier superweapon in both matchups

endor imperial fleet slams the first order

Snoke's flagship had a woeful number of depicted weapons. The turbolasers seemed to be overly large and few in number and for some reason need to be fired in an arc and the ship possessed no ion cannons which the Executor did. The Executor had at least five thousand turbolasers and ion cannons, she would have shredded the Mega Class with a broadside. At the end of the day the Mega class was designed to be a mobile city that possessed offensive weapons, the Executor was designed as a warship that would dominate entire systems by itself without support and just happened to be city sized.