'who is the GOAT of Dota 2?' -Gorgc reacts to Tundra players' answers & gives his own take

who the fk is this gorc anyway?

people keep comparing miracle and topson, like they literally are both has familiar skill but just different roles. Miracle is the topson of carry and Topson is the miracle of Mid vise versa

Miracle the Michael Jordan of Dota

I feel bad for Nigma team except for Kuro l. they would’ve done much better if they weren’t stuck with Kuro

How has Puppey more achievements than Miracle?
I can see the Ceb argument though

individual skill 1. Miracle 2. Sumail 3. Dendi 4. RTz

Miracle
1 vs 5 OD
Buble defense and comeback Arc warden
Instant kill Rosh Arc warden
And many more, this guy is different among pros

He still got the skills!

GOAT of dota2 : Miracle
FACE of dota2 : GOTHMOG

1st player that comes to mind when I hear Dota 2 is Dendi

I say Notail.

Only skiter didn't mention miracle as the greatest player.. and what if miracle replace him hahhahaa

Kuro and Puppey this guys still playing from dota 1. remembered kuro as the tinker god lol. but Miracle really is the best player he just dominates everyone on his prime never saw someone so dominant at MID from dota 1 to ti 1 to incoming ti 11

miracle haters cant accept the fact LMAO. go cry on your mom tits

Notail.

Ana for me. Watch EG vs OG game 3 Ti8, that was just masterclass carry performance.

dota born for miracle

Until now bro, Miracle is still goated. Just watched a lot of high ranked pubs lately and Miracle is always a first pick and to be honest , he still got the skill. He may not be famous in streaming sites or social media but dude is actually owning pubs right now.

man stop the cap, its RTZ.
You guys tripping.

miracle 1v5 while his teammate farm on the other side of the map

Puppey is the GOAT of Dotes..Ceb/Notail comes close.

Miracle is like Messi, nigma is Barcelona. greatest player, slowly destroyed by teams director. (kuroky/Bartomeu)

If Miracle wouldn't have sticked to that dead team Nigma, his achievements would have doubled then what it is now.
He is a selfless guy, but that good quality of him too a dent in his greatness.

its AUI for sure..

i remember miracle anti-mage and invoker was always a show to watch

I started dota cuz of dendi, he's fun and pudge pro

And i grind more and learn more about dota cuz of miracle, man.. in his prime he's so damn good

Last but not least, topson, his playing style is so unique and i love it, especially he always teach ppl how to play dota for free 😂

HOLY HECK DID THEY SAY MIRACLE- BatChest

miracle is not better then ana topson or sumail

Bro's the only player to make Invoker ao popular

miracle is last straw that make me goes into pit of hell called DOTA 2, before that i always curious about why people screaming like mad man when they play dota( i play on icafe), then 2016 i saw miracle clip, i dont even understand that much of dota but i know damn sure that guy is fucking insane

Forsen?

IT'S CLEARLY MIRACLE LMAO
Skillwise

People failed to see how much Miracle influenced the whole dota2 community, yes puppey, dendi etc are one of the goat for sure, but miracle just built different.

I miss miracle

Goat of Dota (Top 5 players of all time)
1. Notail = 2x ti champion 4x major champion can win titles as a support and a carry. (Micheal Jordan of Dota)
2. Puppey = T.I champion 5 major champions most consistent player of all time (Lebron James of Dota)
3. Sumail = Youngest T.I winner most dominant mid-player of all time holds the highest kill in a match in the international against the best team in dota 2 O.G
4. Miracle = The most dominant prime of all time way ahead against other professional players in his prime except sumail/midone/noone in the laning but overall best prime.
5. Gh & Topson = Topson 66.67% win rate in the international Hybrid mid player with unbelievable impact for his team. GH t.i winner with the best mechanical skill support ever probably on par with fy but he won t.i so ill put him ahead of fy.

How cannot be a miracle... I cannot sleep whole day is because of archmage miracle toyying alliance with 1 HP tower...

For achievment i think notail must be the best.
For skill wise i do agree with miracle, and one more i think jerax is the best support play maker i not fan of og but i see the true sight about their TI,for jerax and miracle i love them both, .
This is my opinion

SOMNUS

No one knows but

Miracle changed the way to play dota. Everybody learned from him. Modern dota is played different because of him. Nobody thought about those things he discovered. Such small mechanics.

Puppey is there for being too long. An absolute unit at discipline and mind.

Notail obviously dude. He has the ability to learn from failures in such a positive way to get to the top. He has a great eye for talent. He knows how to use talent that a player posesses.

Ceb for being the guy to sacrifice everything for his team to be happy. Happy team wins. He is a true coach. Understand how to win way too well. Such an uplifter for any team. He helps people find a day to be called the greatest. Just look at how he made a carry like ana shine. Ana is a nonserious player.

Iceiceice changed the way offlane has to be played

Dendi made dota fun and a lot of people started it because of him

Mushi was a great core player

Mutambaman was underestimated but was a 10/10 player. Solid performance every game. Tell me a game where he was useless.

Paparazzi was the best at mid.

Many many more.

To choose only one. Nah bro we can't.

I think Aui_2000 and Ceb, based on their achievement, and impact in team strategy and moral.

If talking about Overall then there’s no other else but:
Johan “N0tail” Sundstein

Won 2 VALVE Majors (Frankfurt Major & Manila Major) as a Position 1/2: Carry/Midlaner
Won 2 VALVE Majors (Boston Major & Kieve Major) as a Position 1: Carry
Won 1 Tier 1 Major (ESL One Frankfurt Major) as a Position 2: Midlaner
Won 1 Tier 1 Major (XMG Captains Draft) as a Position 4: Soft Support
Won 2 The Internationals (TI8 & TI9) as a Position 5: Hard Support & Captain
Won 1 VALVE Major (ESL One Stockholm Major) as a Coach

The Internationals All-Star

Owner of a DotA 2 Team Top Organization: OG
Former Owner of a DotA 2 Team Top Organization: Secret

An Analyst of a VALVE Tournament
A Caster of a VALVE Tournament

Mechanical Skilled Players comes every Season,…And comes out of it on a 2 or 3 Seasons, but the Player I can come up with who’s still at his best no matter what Season it’ll be is Nisha
The guy’s been Mechanically Skilled on every Position of Core on any Roster

Miracle is Mechanically Skilled(One of THE best) but can’t compete without a strong Individual Players in their own Roles
Miracle was Teamup with ILTW they scrimmed and practice together in a Year and still lost and was Unqualified to secure TI, while Topson Teamup with ILTW in a single Tournament and they reached Grandfinals with all of the strong Teams are Direct Invted on that Tournament,…
And then Miracle was Teamup with SumaiL and still same goes what happened

If Miracle teams up with Dyrachyo, Saksa, 33, Puppey on his Team, he would surely shine and probably wins all Games but that’s obviously predictable since all of them are Individually Skilled in their Roles,…But take one out and change it like change 33 to ATF(Good Player but Low Hero-Pool in the current Meta), I’m pretty sure Miracle will fail, and ATF will be at fault even if he’s doing great

Miracle is uncompatible and unadaptable with any Players who has yet to prove his Potential, and he doesn’t think outside of the box like any other Creative Players does

My point is:
Miracle wouldn’t be able to win with Spirit during TI10 if Miracle replaced TORONTOTOKYO
Miracle wouldn’t be able to win with ana during TI8 and TI9 if Miracle replace Topson,…

Miracle wouldn’t be able to adapt ana or Yataro’s extreme hard farming, in his Gamestyle he’ll also be farming with them instead of taking advantage of what his Teammate’s potential is or throwing his body to create space for his Core
Miracle wouldn’t build a Diffusal Blade during TI9 Grandfinals Game 4 if he’s in Topson’s shoes or he wouldn’t be able to sell his Items when he’s on ana’s shoes during TI8 Grandfinals Game 4

A TRUE GOAT can play any Role, any Roster, any Team, adapt any Gamestyle & Strategy

The reason why Miracle is known because he has tons of Fanbase that creates Amazing Highlights to showcase his Skills, In Pubs and in Pro-Scenes
If there’s people doing Highlights on every Skilled Players in Pro-Scene they’re most likely gonna be more famous than Miracle

Bro Miracle is known for his skill much more than achievements. If you ask dota player what they know about Miracle they can say about his highlights almost every of them, and not everyone knows his Achievements.

Ceb is goat. the wins and standin and still winning. case closed

has miracle been to every fucking TI ?
Puppey is the Goat and its not even close

Prime Miracle is the best player ever played DotA

Have to be notail right? Dude played core and support throughout his career and had great success on both role,so skill wise he definitely have it. Not even need to mention he is the 2 time ti as a captain aswell and also the amount major titles he have on his belt.

Miracle prime? I dont think he's washed up. everyone just caught up to him and the patch changes. Puppey is GOAT in my herald Opinion. And the magical days of OG the GOAT team.

The first thing that comes out of my mind when we say DOTA2 is Miracle.

I feel like if you're not a carry/ mid player they will not consider you as a DOTA2 GOAT.

just admit u hate miracle Gorp its so obvious XD