Tall Target Test - Critical Step For Long Range Accuracy

I need a new Hobby :).

I purchased some Hornady 6mm Creedmoor brass (May-1-24) and (3) rounds out of a lot of 100cases would not fit the case holder and (1) case had a visible hole in the neck.

The frustrating thing about this video is MOA, and you say MIL is better.
In my opinion Mil is far better but you can't use it in your teaching 🤔

If it's not written down it never happened. 😊

I really appreciate your scope mounting and long range precision videos. Thank you!

My 6.5 likes Hornady Precision Hunter. New to the channel, I like it here. tx

And your using factory ammo lol good luck with that lol

Plumline??? You said on your other video that plumlines don't work???

What app are you using for ballistic calculations?

Wow this is by far the best scope zeroing and mounting video ive ever seen knline i watched the first part awhile ago but just bought another scope so wanted to refresh everything and i really like the target setup and how useful it is to assure your scope is plum. I feel like ive never once sighted a rifle in properly now after seeing this usually i start at 50 get on paper and then move to 100 zero it and i thought that was good. But now i realize i might end up realigning everything ive built for the last 10 years. Love the plum bob method and im gonna get one of the electric levelers. Pretty cool. Really excited to use your target cause that explains why im busting things from 400 yards then after that it starts missing enough its a problem i would bet my scope isnt plum hell i didnt even use a torque wrench i didnt have 1 small enough back then but wow i feel like i just went to school again.

If you have a basic scope with no turrets and no hold offs or a prisms scope or red dot what is the best way to shoot the tall target test? Would you change your hold point to the top of the target and move your gun back in 100 yard increments and track the impacts drop down the tall target line?

Love how you write down the real world data, I think a lot of people are missing this point. Train to the worst case scenario... no tech, no range finder (learn how to mil targets at various ranges), and no ballistic calculator. If you can do that, then everything else is just a cherry on top.

Measuring from turrets!!! THANK YOU. I’ve wanted to know this answer for a long time.

Alright folks 😂

What about mrad?

What shooting mat is that?

It is also good practice whether you're testing scope tracking or in competition to dial past and then back down...for example: if you want 5.2 Mils dial 5.4 then back down two clicks. You probably wouldn't need to do this for PRS but many benchrest and F class shooter do especially if you have a scope with 'mushy' turrets.

Thank you so much for the video. Are you still doing the online classes

Great video, very informative, thank you.

Same exact experience with the 6.5 PRC ammo. Hornady was very inconsistent. Started using the Norma and it's so much better.

Awesome Awesome content! Thanks for the great info!

Awesome. Great video. 👍

Does it matter what power your scope is on? I don’t think it would matter personally but I’ve heard people say moving power changes POI. I think they have crap scopes if it changes POI right?
Lots of good info here. I’ve never heard of a long target until now. Thanks!

Excellent information Gary.

I haven't had much luck with hornady factory loads either. We'll see how they work on my 7 prc. I've scrapped hornady on my 30-06 and 6.5 prc. They've both had the same prob you've seen.

Bingeing your channel! So glad I got a LRA SendIt From you guys. It really one of the best options. No only can you use it on the rifle but as a tool to correct other mounts as well. Great vid!

Thank you ..)

What is that yellow level you used that ended up being true? I have the wheeler levels and will have to check it now. I appreciate how you showed to level basically the surface and then compare the turret on the surface to make sure it shows the same level or congruent degree of angle it is off in respect to the surface of the table or your machined block. A crutial check point for sure.

So.... what racetrack is that. Lol

Swedish stuff (Norma) is the best. 😁

Question. If your scope is Mil and you’re using a mil target, do you still set the target to 100 yds away from scope turret? Or do you set it up 100 meters away to conduct this test?

Quick question... Shouldn't the mill target be at 100 meters and not yards?

Great video! 👍

Just getting into long range shooting. Your videos made it a lot easier for me to understand

At the 20 minute mark, it looks like if you draw a line through your shots, you get a straight line. Wouldn't that indicate your electronic level could favor a rightward lean?

Be made we know how to make a great video very much appreciate the time and effort you put into this below. In the video you spoke that the MPA barrel was 7.5 twist but on the app it showed an 8 twist. Will that change your elevation?

I agree 100% with this testing but I also know that 99.9% of the time that people have meaningful errors with the ballistic apps is because they aren’t using them properly.

If you don’t have your weather conditions (let’s ignore wind for this conversation) and muzzle velocity for that exact location at that time, then the app gives you a best guess. Enter the inputs properly and it’s going to be within a MOA if your gun is setup properly and you are using the same lot of ammo or loads

Use 4DOF properly and it’s gonna be balls on with the proper inputs

I just bought a savage 110 high country in 6.5 prc and haven’t had the results I hoped to. I figured it was just not broken in enough, or maybe and still possibly the muzzle brake needs to be timed. Could be a few things as well as just me being a novice, but my mark II in .22lr was grouping better at 100 yrds.
My question is do you think the issue with these Hornady ELD cartridges is the brass, powder or bullets? Or a combination of these? And do you think I can salvage the 200 rounds of this ammo I just ordered a few days ago if I get into reloading them?

What range were shooting at?

Great content… Thank You for sharing. We appreciate ya. God Bless

Let me know if my reasoning is right here, but when you input the correction factor into your ballistic app, the app will now tell you correct elevation when dialed and incorrect information if holding for elevation with the reticle right? Just something to keep in mind. Great video, lots of awesome information here.

I’ve been mounting with the plumb bob method, I’ll try your technique next and see how it goes with the addition of a plumb bob test after leveling the scope to test reticle to scope alignment before spending the time setting up the tall target only to find out the reticle is off after getting to the range. Same same with you’re technique checking the reticle against your tall target.

We just had terrible results with two lots of Hornady TAP .308 168gr ELD-M. We had always had great results with their A-MAX, but the new stuff has been trash for my team; we are considering switching manufacturers.

Must say I’m so impressed on all time you spend to do all material and the information provided, and your dedication you have for explaining , thank you and stay safe

I have some of those us optics targets and the bottom and right side squares are smaller so use a tape measure.

When are we going to see a Paramount Tactical Data Book?? Great video, Gary!

Awesome... No turrets are exact either and there is a way to figure out exactly what you're turrets are turning each click and can be even more exact

So, are we loving MOA again, or is it the devil still?😂

Ammo assembled during the COVID ERA AND HORNADY'S PRECISION STANDARD...yeah

Your erratic match grade Hornady ammo HAS "COVID"....