AMD's Ryzen AI Hardware Does NOT Support Linux!

I should clarify something, ROCM technically functions on consumer AMD hardware but AMD does not support this use case with the exception of 1 or 2 cards, there is barely any documentation on using it, or even which cards are supposed to work. Compare this with CUDA where everything is neatly layed out, there's clear guidelines on which versions on which cards are supported along with extensive documentation and it's clear as day why NVIDIA completely dominated this market.

Good Tip I dont Wanna Buy Rayzen...i Just Buy Linux Allies .

Doesn't AMD run Python? Just use that.

This video sent me down a rabbit hole and after wading through marketing pages that talk about nothing in particular I've come to the conclusion that they've integrated the Xilinx Versal chip architecture into their Zen 4 processors.

To summarise my rabbit hole, Ryzen Zen 4 based processors have dedicated AI engines with FPGA mesh-like interconnects that you can program. The thing that's not available right now are the chip layout tools, however since the tech is available in the broader AMD and Xilinx family chips for high performance computing, I expect some of that will be running on linux even though the design tool they advertise to use is windows only.

To my understanding Ryzen AI (and later tech from Intel) has nothing to do with ML. Its more a simple NPU/TPU that is part of the SoC int is probably only using a standarized ISA for INT8 with some models you get delivered for your OS and/or system. The benefit could be that the whole model can be in the local memory of the cpu , no copying to external memory on gpu or NPU. All those use cases remind me of those for the Coral TPU or those integrated in many ARM SoC. CUDA and Rocm are a much different (and expensive).

AMD dragging their feet is the best advertising Intel and Nvidia could ask for. And it doesn't even cost them!

Behavior like this is quickly pushing me to Intel... If they make a threadripper competitor before my next build I may very well switch back to team blue after half a dozen years going AMD. If support for Linux is equal, Intel tends to win out.

Ok the 7900xtx was for me the last high end gpu from AMD.

Not only AI under Linux not supported by that trash company.

AMD doing their best to lose marketshare in one of their most successful environments - all the while nvidia open source nvk drivers will be up and running in a couple of years potentially taking away the amd open source advantages, and even nvidia improving features for linux. AMD should be doing way more in the linux space wtf are they thinking.

Brodie I believe ROCm can run CUDA applications on AMD hardware.

eta wen linux? can i help somehowow?

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I will just buy a mac for laptop and windows for desktop productivity and gaming. Linux is good for old laptops to do browsing and office work

is because of this, which is better to Linux users make a boycott in this series and just buy Meteor Lake notebooks.
Meteor Lake have a good Intel VPU, a NPU which has a native linux driver and open source library and API, and Intel Quick Sync Encoder is much time better then AMD VCN for CODEC support, Meteor Lake Intel Xe GPU will support a new Intel Xe KMD driver this driver will be much times better then older i915, and Intel already working in improve compiler reducing the shader time compilation and implement extensions in this, include Sparse resources.

“But you can still use Linux with this card, there’s WSL”

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

One might expect they only want the lower quality fluff users who will gush over it rather than generate tickets on real issues to be fixed. Marketing department driven development/availability. That and M$ probably paid for an exclusive in the background >.> ... I have to note that is pure speculation on my part though.

AI is not required for any of the features they showed as demo for, most likely they are using very little or no features of AI they are claiming the processor has, instead they are using generic x86 code.

It gets me every time how such big companies can make such decisions.
Is there not one person at the decision roundtable discussion thinking business and speaks up?

Competition is always a good thing

Microsoft once did it right. When they started with DirectX in the nineties, they fished their clientele while they where young. That, the fact that MS back then offered something for every age and interest while growing up lead to 50 year old managers today only agreeing to MS product in offices.
If AMD wants to go anywhere with this, they should make this available and accessible for everyone, regardless of operating system. If you foster a community of young devs at Uni, you get, years later, decision makers in leading positions. But if you just want this to be a toy for windows laptops, you'll get... uhm... nothing?