How to Make MIDI Brass Sound Realistic

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Why didn’t you use stock plugin from Logic? You know it’s easy to do it with session brass, but what if we don’t have that expensive plugins?

From a sound perspective open trumpet can sound great combined with trombone and sax - I'm sure you've heard Chicago. If you want something pointedly subdued I'd recommend flugel instead of trumpet with a Harmon. But the problem is with the MIDI open horn version of any member of the trumpet family it's going to be more obvious it's fake. Your sax lines are really subtracting from the sound - vibrato on MIDI horns always sounds fake. Another problem with MIDI horns is everything sounds dead center on pitch - it takes on an organlike sound.

Man this misses all the marks as far as what to actually do to make MIDI brass sound realistic..
Velocity, Expression, Dynamics... hello?
Why is your fader past unity gain? Ugh...

Why Don't My Garageband Don't Look Like This

Sorry, but as a trumpet player, you are giving us zero credit for being able to play any sort of length to these notes. If we couldn't play more than a half bar at a time, we'd be fired. Period.

Thx for the info. Using tracks to show musicians what I want to do, so this helps.

What the heck are the words to the opening song for this channel?!

This represents a good first step. It's obvious from some of the responses that there's more

Amazing! Although the technique seems very intricate, I believe it can be adapted for my particular DAW/VST suite. Some of this will likely also have practical application when I want to create brass and woodwind ensembles/horn sections on my Casio WK-200. As with many arranger keyboards that have been on the market the factory brass and woodwind ensemble presets can sound very underwhelming , ' cheesy ', and synthy. Your video has helped me to understand why that is and how to tweak and hack such things. And I will very likely take tone layering and editing more seriously. I got here by entering the phrase, how to create realistic orchestra hits using actual brass and woodwind instruments. Although I didn't understand everything you were doing I think that I got the basic idea. Thank you much.

I remember someone telling me to write MIDI drums parts with realistic sticking - not striking three surfaces at the one time if you only have two hands etc. The advice here about breathing and the other behaviours of horn players really humanises the performance. Great tut

Thanks for taking the time on this. I learned how the lower notes control what kind of activity will be associated with the actual notes played on Kontakt.
I found it interesting that you could quantize at all since your audio was clearly 3/4 or 6/8 time and your time signature was 4/4 as well as the tempo of the song seemed largely ignored. (like no click track used for recording) But it somehow worked.
By using CC 11 (expression) for volume you can set the actual volume (CC 7) at the beginning of the song and expression will act as a volume within the volume. That way your overall volume will be maintained, since midi will play the last setting for the CC that it was given. Of course if people prefer to use a lot of automation that would be another way to accomplish what they want.
Again, thanks for the post.

Video should be called, how to make programmed midi sound played. I want to know what EQ/Mixing/effects make it real.

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Thank you !

As far as I know it's the real sampling brass, the way it convert to kontakt that make it more complex...no company can implament properly how it can play with keyboard controller or with drawing midi, they just made as many articulation as they can, to be honest I put this brass section on my song and doesn't sound like this video examples, it's depends our skill how to make as real as the original. I think we have to change our prespektive about THIS modern brass sampling, it's not the MIDI sampling like the old ways, it's the real intruments sampling but it convert to digital ,we know as midi so that we can play in our controller , think of it like the real analog gear that engineer put to the digital world like cla-1176 , cla-2A from waves, but that is more simple compare to make the real instrument and put it on digital world we know as sampling

thank you Jacks films

All these videos are clickbaits. You're just telling us what we already know to sound cool. How about actually showing people how to make it realistic? Disliked.

Did I miss something, or did you not show us the final result?

What application is this?

Awesome! I gotta go check out this “Sessions Pro “ now

I can see you got this plugin from Spitfire I’m guessing. How can I get it too? :)

thank you, sir!

"leave enough space to breathe"
Brass Players: That's a funny joke

saturation on the bus is also good if you want it to sit like a sampled section

how can I extend the key range?

How to Make MIDI Brass Sound Realistic: You can't

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Is the guy talking Cobra Kai Kid

Thank you!

great resource man. con apply some stuff for strings too.

Missed an explanation about cc1 automation and how it differs from c11. It's crucial. 👍 Mike Verta, among others, explains well how to automate cc1 with brass instruments. I find very useful your videos and sheets about mixing and mastering!

good job explaining the tips to do this. however, to this day, I'm still not finding a midi horn that I'm like "whoa, that actually sounds real..." it's tough to make it realistic

Great video

best way is using a real brass section

Step One: Buy a $300 brass Library lol

I believe it’s just C - 1st octave. Not “negative one”. Just like middle C is C - 4.

Is that Logic’s plugin?

Mann don't knoe why this name is in my head every time Sean divine lol.

Interesting... but really NAFfF to talk about brass whilst showin pictures of saxophones ... they are woodwind.. . Totally different way of producing sound and therefore different tonality !!!

I'm having trouble getting Session Horns Pro to respond to expression like I expect. In the Kontakt settings, I assign expression to the mod wheel. But the results are quite static. If I start with a soft note, I get only a bit more volume pushing the mod wheel all the way up. And the same starting with I louder note.

I wish SHP had actual dynamics like the better brass libraries. Or I wish I could find out how to get expression to work similarly.

I'll try it the way you show.

Amazing how simple and straight forward these ideas are but how many people don’t even think about common sense! Next step.... stop showing saxophone players when talking about BRASS instruments. Saxophones are woodwinds man!

🤔 talks about the voices of brass instruments while showing a woodwind instrument lol

I think that the first question should be: does this song even need brass? Obviously something like Salsa is "of course", and then there's "You Can Call Me Al". For the song in this demo, I wouldn't have added horns. You have everything from Miami Sound Machine style to small sections, and it gets really subjective for some songs.

Super helpful, thanks for taking the time to do this. Very useful and informative. Keep up the great work 🙏🏼

Technically it's all great info but IDK if you need like ten different brass instruments for a project, too complicated I think. Depends on a genre tho. Also my CPU would cry every time ;(

Excellent as always, thank you.

great video idea. I feel that the sample community needs better brass then the current options as the samples themselves don't really sound like a live band at all. The closest people to that are the Swing series but they don't care about their customers or feedback, which is a real shame as its nearly there it just needs a playable legato patch for everything and a few more articulations and it would be amazing. I want a really good trumpet library that has every mute and a great sound unlike sample modelling that just sounds great out of the box thats how a real library should work.

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