How To Tell A Good Drummer From A Bad Drummer

Simplicity is the term avoid unnecessary rolls etc keep the groove

I like the song you used. Who was it and what was the name if the song?

Yr spot on Apply the Kiss principle and keep in the pocket 🥁🔥🥁

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Wow! What cymbals are you using? That primary crash and ride are fire!🔥 Such a great tone. They cut and enhance! 😎🎼 🥁

Well said indeed re: genre specific drumming practices. To do justice to an ARCHSPIRE track, Spencer Prewett must play an entirely blacked out page of notes (at breakneck speed) from beginning to end. That’s why I’m an extreme metal worshipper … every bar is an expected flex drumming wise.

My first rule of good drummer from my instructor was; “don’t break down drums on stage.” 🤭

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its called respect to the song you are playing...

One of my best friends is a bad drummer and another is good. The good drummer has loved the drums since he was little and I don't think he's even had a teacher. I was in band and had a teacher, practiced my butt off and I'm a bad drummer. It's complex why, when I have naturally loved playing drums, I wasn't allowed to because my mother was not just sick, she was pretending to be sick to manipulate those around her and she hated drums. My confidence was crushed every day. She'd just force me to listen to her insulting me and not talk back. Let's talk about the good drummer. His mother must have been a saint. A family of 2 rambunctious boys, one had a type of mental disorder I don't know the details but he played bass. But my point is that he lived, slept and ate drums. He made himself play because it was the funniest thing to do. He had a ton of energy but was patient as well. He still plays professionally in Austin Tx somewhere. The bad drummer is constantly smoking, weed, if possible. He drives drunk, lives with his mom and never helps her. She might be enabling him. Technically. He's always trying to get pills but most of all vodka, etc. U get the idea. His playing sounds like he has been taught and knows his rudiments but he plays everything like it's a flam. bass to snare, flam. A cymbal crash and Tom hit, flam. Nothing is on time, not exactly. It's good enough to get through the music but it doesn't make the hair on your arm stand up. The studio space next door has a really badass drummer. Knows everybody's stuff. When you hear him play difficult stuff with the same exactness of timing that he'll play a simple beat, I get goose bumps. He plays 8 hours a day like it's his life's dream to just be good. He's a good drummer. He can be placed in any room with egocentric guitarists and still lay down a fantastic best, tasteful and precise fills.... I've never heard him rush not even a little through a fill. He's like a smiley machine only creative. Every strike says something cool. But I agree with this guy too. A good drummer has to master every genre, and not mind if serving the song is boring, and it often is. That's my problem. If it's boring I go nuts inside and I'm not good enough to pull anything off. I picked up the bass and felt like my love for the beat can live in silence when I don't plug it in. I can play it as much as I want. I get compliments a lot and it makes me sad because I know I'm not playing to my actual level. I'm always playing something just a bit above my actual talent, so in my ear it sounds terrible. Why am I doing that? I'm thinking as I listen to a playback. It's the same with all the members of the band. First you do need to know all the ways your instrument can express things and be able to express a little more than that. That can take many years. Then learning to listen to music and hear how each member is expressing the song and then learn how to do that while the song is playing. To do this you've got to be able to play to a metronome and then to other drummers. I put a Rush song onscreen and tried to create a beat map. Peart actually speeds up and slows down. That's blasphemy to many but I'd say he did keep the tempo accurate. It just served the song that way. It doesn't sound right if that song is played to a metronome. That was a lot of work for me and that's what I got from it. If it sounds straight, it's good. Had he actually changed the tempo, that'd be really weird for Rush. Serving the music entails being able to play any genre. I never thought about it exactly like that. Nice video. I still want to play drums and mom died years ago. I should have played long ago. I decided somewhere inside that I don't care enough. A good drummer cares. I care about other things. It's sure nice to listen to musicians who care about music. Those are the good musicians.

You should change the title to play simple for great results.

The fact that he plays open handed drumming atuomatically tells me this guy is on another level!

Being a good drummer is boring. Being a bad drummer is more fun. Self serving vs serving the music 😆

So, how frikin much does a drummer have to know how to play, anyone else?

Serving the music is easier anyways lol

I swear I've heard that song before. Has anybody else ever heard it before?

Apparently singers think a good drummer is one that dumbs themselves down to play with them...im being forced to play out of time because the singer can't play in time with his acoustic firepit guitar..so I'm told to lay back and follow him so he looks good...im tired of this shit because hey its all about the singer these days.

i keep coming back to this video once in a while, i love it so much!

i kinda liked the intro??

I agree but it's good to put that little extra like he said to make it more interesting so in that sense you would be playing a little for yourself

The pop chops though.

Keep it simple, serve the music not yourself ! 👍 really informative.

this is a bunch of FUCKING BULLSHIT.

THERE IS FUCKING NOTHING WRONG WITH PUTTING IN CHOPS! IT JUST HAS TO MAKE SENSE WITH THE SONG YOU'RE PLAYING!

I DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IN SIMPLICITY.

NOBODY, FUCKING NOBODY ENJOYS PLAYING JUST A BORING SIMPLE 1 2 3 SNARE!

IT IS POSSIBLE TO SERVE YOURSELF AND SERVE THE MUSIC AS WELL! YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THE DELICATE BALANCE!

hey i always said money stays in the pocket if your in the pocket let the music breath dont smother it

Finally somebody else who plays TRX cymbals

That was definitely simple

A great drummer to me is somebody that is trying to learn versus judge other peoples performances. I’m really starting to dislike you guys at drumeo. I wonder if all your guys are super nice the way Jared is on the videos and then the complete opposite when you meet them or reach out to them on their personal pages. But then again, you guys are PROFESSIONAL drummers and that’s how you guys get paid. Unsubscribed email and from the page. I don’t even want the free information.

Bottom line is you serve the music. Don't serve your ego :P

wha tif I don't play a gonra?

it all depends, and with the examples given, a drummer could indeed overplay the song, since i heard no other intrusive instruments but the synth, but if there is a vocal,, guitar,. bass etc, then yes, playing simple should be the case

Ok thanks, I got confirmation I am in fact, a good drummer!

Louie Bellson told me a very long time ago, "It's what you don't play."

For some reason, drumming seems to attract show-offs who like to show everybody how many chops they have...
Here are some tips from a pro bassist if you are a cover drummer:

Learn the material. Do your homework. I spend countless hours learning bass lines as accurately as possible, and it's frustrating when a drummer is constantly throwing fills over the top of what I'm playing. If I have spent the time to learn the song correctly, you should too. That goes for everybody else.
Fix your meter by practicing to a metronome or practicing songs you do with headphones. This will correct your meter.
When you have a choice, less is more. Play less, not more. Space is good most of the time.
Quit drinking! I have seen drugs or alcohol ruin promising drummers by effecting the way they play. I have played with guys who start the first set or so playing magnificently, then devolving into a mess of loud, off-timed, overplayed garbage.
Use dynamics. Play with feel. Groove when necessary, keep it quiet when necessary, and drive the song when necessary. This is how you convey emotion with timekeeping.

Just my thoughts. Drummers that can do this are my favorite ones, and it does not take much effort, just playing smarter to accomplish this.
You will be in high demand if you can be this disciplined in a sea of hack, unprofessional drummers.

Yeah but what about blast beats?

That is not an example of serving yourself, because you implied time clearly and the fills were musical in the context of the music. in fact, the "wrong example" is slightly better than the "right example" due to the blandness of the latter.

there is no genre. only music. there are no "country chops" or "metal chops", only technique and musicality. you cannot reduce percussion to time keeping and call it "good", that is the bare minimum. to go a step further, you must be musical, and play music, instead of being a glorified metronome.

That’s a good advice for everything in life

serving himself, rather than serving the music 😂😂😂😅...the way you said it is really funny man 😂

All drummers are crap. And I mean ALL. They just make a racket and add no value whatsover. All you need is a good, solid bassist. Why in god's name would you destroy your music by employing a drummer?

Wow that true

The advice goes for any instrument trying to play with a guitarist noodling all over is obnoxious. Egos kill music.The drums and bass are the foundation of the music. Listen to any good band those are solid. A good drummer is the reference if anyone gets lost they can still find their way back.Miss a note, nobody will notice miss a beat everybody hears it.

You and the fucking beatles suck!!!

does anyone know what the instrumental he is using is called? i would love to have that in my library to jam to every now and then

Thank you for sharing this.

It’s really cool to see another drummer play left hand on the hats and then switch to the right hand on the ride. This is exactly how I learned to play. I tried to take lessons, but every instructor told me I wasn’t worth teaching because I wasn’t able to learn the way they wanted to teach me. Sorry. I’m left hand/right foot dominant. I actually have a ride on my left and right, as well as a second snare to the left on my hats.

“serves himself instead of serving the music.”

Alot of guitar players would benefit by thinking that way

I actually like the bad drummer better :)

Good, bad, Rock, Pop, Progressive these are all just labels. Art is bigger and deeper and more important and more expressive than all of this.
A great drummer could play to that awful backing track in multiple ways drawing from various ideas and resources that he or she has developed throughout her years experience on the instrument. And they would all be excellent and unique and what would set them apart would be what the drummer is trying to achieve or what the duration of the band/song is trying to achieve which is usually discussed as a band or perhaps communicated with the producer. All the great bands throughout the history of music crossed genres, created their own sound, had something to say, and found their own unique way. I hate “lessons” like these which are often limited and ill-advised. If we followed these steps alone there will be zero innovation and no new drumming heroes only copy cats. Better advice here would be to study with great teachers, learn from all the greats that came before you, and THEN… find your own voice. (But have something to say.)

idk weather i suck or weather im a very unselfish drummer lol.

Use chops depending on the genre. Which genre don't have chops? Thats yours!

Who is this drummer??please i need to know his name because i also play like him and need to ask him some info

oh gosh. i’m excepting some Lars comments