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Excuse me? what is with the foul language? you obviously have a cold heart;( good luck with life
ОтветитьHe would be if the stories were true.
Ответитьpraise the lord with everything you have and you will be blessed more than imaginable wwwhavehelpedmillionscom forgiveness to all of the jesus haters
ОтветитьThe Metro Tasmania case was over-turned a few months ago in favour of the Atheists. As for APN; I don't agree with their decision and am surprised by it. That's a decision their CEO has to live with I guess. Also, don't get too flustered by the seeing all those banners around. Just look in the opposite direction like I do when I see an ad for Australian Idol! By the way; Jesus may be dead to you (which I accept) but he's not dead too me. Peace to you jacobbrett119.
ОтветитьI know what you mean and i know what you're saying with running both ads at the same time. I'm a christian, but I'd be happy for an Atheist organisation to run their own ad campaign (I'm going to get some negative comments for saying this)! I actually like to hear all the different viewpoints and am against censorship of that nature. At the end of the day, people need to make up their own minds what path they follow. I should know; I was an Atheist for most of my life.
ОтветитьNot quite. This is a self-funded campaign by the churches the create conversation, not conversion, about Jesus. There's no reason why a Hindu or atheist or any other religious/organisation can't do the same. We live in a democratic country where, if you have the financial support, you can advertise and put forward your own message or product the same way the churches have for this campaign. Besides, it only runs for 6 weeks and you can always flick to another channel while the ad is on.
ОтветитьHow is this commercial unfair? Also, their running the Harry Potter movies on TV at the moment. Is that evening things out for you?
Ответитьhaha ok ^^
ОтветитьI know man, I was being supportive with my sarcasm :(
ОтветитьI didnt say he did.. maybe you should slow down and reread what I said lol.
ОтветитьNo we are used to close minded people. We like laughing at them. Sometimes ridicule is the most logical choice when presented with utter stupidity :)
ОтветитьReally? He has the answers? Thats fantasitc! Im doing a maths exam the day after tomorrow and I really want the answers to solving the real numbers on a complex plane: Re{(1-2i)^2} Will a prayer do? Or is it in the bible?
ОтветитьBecasue will, its godbods that have changed the law in Victoria so they can discriminate against; gender, martial status, divorcee, sexual orientation, religion, and if you are a parent. That is sickening! Not to mention the push to teach creationism in high schools indead of evolution. And the denial of health care to rape victems who may not want to carry their rapiest baby to full term. I'm sorry, but you guys preach love but you impose secretly cruelty and ignorence from behind close doors
Ответить@ mh4777abc He loves us equally, even if we have nothing.
Ответитьi like u guys. got facebook? lol
ОтветитьI see what the reason is: Its to keep me out of ever going to heaven or ever having a real chance of being saved. God doesn't care about me, only his select few who have their names written in the book of life, where as I have nothing, no real friends, no job, no girlfriend, no money, no purpose. Where others are born wealthy, born brilliant and intelligent, born beautiful, born lucky, and what was i born with? None of those things, fuck all, thats why im killing myself.
Ответитьcorrection. there IS a reason, you just cant see it. the way that god wants us to live is a life that is free from all of that drama and stuff. people dont cheat on eachother, people share, no one is hungry or rejected. if you fail to realise that you have to THINK about things, than im wasting my time.
Ответить@max2000warrior I guess that's just your opinion. It doesn't explain how the Earth came to be. Evolution with gasses and stuff. They might know the gasses, they just can't create the actual life.
ОтветитьThere are no gods. Only Man!
Ответитьthats where you are wrong, if sin is only wrong because it harms other people then why is gluttony, and lust or even fornication a sin? It's purely wrong because god says it is, theres no real reason.
Ответитьexacly, my friend. it doesnt make sense to me. if there are no consequences, then i can do whatever the hell i want. however, there ARE consequences, so ill be a good little boy.
Ответить... how is christianity "sickening"? what we preach is right. the only reason that things are "sins" is because they harm people or relationships. and if you find it brainwashing for us to teach morals, even if u ignore the rest of it, then you are on sick, sad little man.
ОтветитьTheres one thing being overlooked here, the occult. who do you explain Ouija boards that actually work, they used to sell them in shops but they banned them because people were going insane, and they do work if you do them right and are dangerous because you invite demons into yourself. How do you explain exorcism? Why do people react violently when preists do this to people who have demons who which get casted out in the process? how do you explain ghosts?
ОтветитьJust imagine how much of a fool you will look if there is a God. Why do people even have morals if they believe theres nothing after death.
Ответитьwell must have been a pretty good illusion to raise people from the dead.
ОтветитьSo watching this commercial I thought it wasn't really going anywhere, of course that was until I saw its conclusion. I am, of course, disgusted.
ОтветитьTroll detected.
Ответитьwhat does science prove? the bigbang is still only just a theory it may as well be a religion. and what evidence is there for it? expanding stars? or atleast what our limited view of the universe permits us to see.
ОтветитьWhy would i need evidence its a faith. I'm just trying to save your soul from hell because i love you. You dont recognise witnesses as evidence, i do, what would you need? a video recording of jesus and his miracles? you would definately say its a fabrication and doctored. It's not like you have to move into a cult and give them all your possessions, all you need to do is believe and try your best to succeed, god has certainly left you the tools. You are not going to find scientific proof.
ОтветитьClearly you havent read the bible. If you had you would know we suffer and die because of our SINS! once we go to heaven there wont be any sun burns there or pain ever again. Life is too short to be an atheist what use will it serve you? what is your life? if theres no god then life is pointless why do you go on?
ОтветитьHow arogant to presume you know more then me about revelations, you dont know me and you certainly have no faith. Now lets look back 2000 years ago when science was none existant for us. The only evidence then were witnesses and why would people risk persecution over Jesus for? many people seen him die and 3 days later many people seen him walking around. He preformed miracles and healed the sick, walked on water, many people saw his miracles, wheres your scientific explanation for that?
ОтветитьContinued... Look at it this way. If we are supposed to be God's favorite creation, why would he make Faith the thing that makes folks love him the most, and logic makes us doubt him more than anything, when logic is the only thing that makes us better than all "His other creations" (Other animals and such) I mean, my dog has faith, plenty of it, she's a tiny little thing, and she will jump from a high counter with the faith that I will catch her, but she has basically no logic. Think about it.
ОтветитьHaha, I was linked here, and I laughed. Not because I am an atheist, and this video is dumb, but because of all the Christains with there loose and nonlogical arguements. "Open your mind" is my favorite....Having "Faith" is quite the opposite of having an open mind. To beleive in something blindly without ever questioning it is like the exsact deffinition of close-mindedness. (or close enough) I'm out of character space...arguement continued in a moment...
ОтветитьDid you ever take a critical thinking or formal logic unit? It doesn't sound like it, and what evidence? Not just for God, but your specific God, and that he wants what you believe he does etc.
Ответитьhey all. just one question for all the athiests out there. why are you here? you come here either seeking faith or to argue. if you come here to argue, then you have closed your mind off to the truth. now ask yourself. why do you argue with us? because you think we are stupid? well then, spend your time arguing with the people that do stupid things that affect you. if anybody wants to talk then i will do all i can to help. i have facebook under this name, look me up if you want.
ОтветитьDo you realise that.. You say these things like "It is a choice" "God loves you very much" "God cant change who he is" Without actually putting any argument behind any of them? You just state conclusions, without giving any premises in support of them and you ignore my counter arguments. You obviously do not understand how to argue, i wonder if you even know what a premise is?
ОтветитьAh but that's where you are wrong. It is a choice and hell is only the punishment that atleast we have been warned about. I know where you're coming from and I've been there, God doesn't want us to suffer he wants to help us. God is who he is and he cannot change that so he has to do everything he can to change us so we can be saved from the punishment of hell and live with him in heaven forever. Understand that God doesn't hate you he loves you very much. Just make an effort.
Ответитьtwo things. First, you have to understand that "worship me or be tortured for eternity" isnt really a choice. But that doesnt even matter because if what you believe about God is true then you do not have free will. As I have said, if god creates you while knowing your future (being all knowing) then he creates your future as he creates you and predestines you to your ultimate fate. You do not need religion to be moral, go and study morality.
ОтветитьHe has given us 'Free Will', freedom to choose whether we want to follow his commands or reject them. God knows far better then us, who are we to question him? God is not only all good and all knowing, he is just. I know it seems like cult like behaviour but i dont do what the church tells me to do, only god; of-course I'm not perfect noone is and i make mistakes but they can be forgiven. We choose, all you have to do to get to heaven is Love everyone and God - be moral. How is that bad?
ОтветитьI know all about near death experiences, yet again, you study them in Psychology. I lack faith because I dont think believing in something there is no evidence for just because it comforts me even though it is painfully illogical is a virtue.
ОтветитьSo how is it that you think that the revelations of people in your religion are evidence, but the revelations of people from every other religion which those people claim assert the truthfulness of their religion are false?
ОтветитьNot only have I read the Bible, but ive also read a fair bit of the Torah, and of the Buddhist religious texts etc. Have you read any of the OTHER religions texts? Why do you think that your religion is the right one then? I have studied the religions, I also study Science. Statistics, morality, ontology, epistemology, formal logic and Psychology. You? "Revelations" are not proof. I know far more about "Revelations" than you do. And yet again, people from EVERY religion claim to have them.
ОтветитьYou don't seem to realise that even children with no life experience have drawn some interesting things that they have seen when they have had a near death experience. But i guess that just isnt good enough for you. You lack faith because something bad has happened to you in the past or a church has scorned you in some way, but you dont seem to realise man and god are appart and no church can really represent God who is not only good but just.
Ответитьhave you read the bible? read it if you haven't, don't read just the old testament and be put off, read the new testament. The only real evidence is 'revelations', if that comes to pass you will have your proof although it may be too late then.
ОтветитьGuess what, personal experiences DO NOT count as evidence and there are good reasons for that! Really good reasons. If you knew anything about Psychology and delusion you would understand how easy it is for humans to attach significance to random events, to hallucinate, to think wishfully etc. What about all the personal experiences of the people in every other religion? There is not a shred of evidence for God, you believe it because it comforts you and you do not really care about truth.
ОтветитьI didn't say I could give you proof, I could only give testimony of others who have had experiences with angels and jesus appearing as spirits before them to protect or comfort them - thats the only real proof that exists. And again I didn't say Jesus gives everyone their diseases! Funny how atheists only refer to the old testament, read the new testament its the only part of the bible that makes sense to me and it is the truth. man don't give up on jesus he wont give up on you.
Ответить"Jesus loves you all no matter how flawed" Jesus MADE YOU FLAWED. He is supposed to be God and God is supposed to create you. THINK about what you say. Jesus could have made it so we couldnt get sun burnt. I went to that site and you know what it says about sun burn? All it says is, dont worry about it, because if you worship our God youll go to heaven which is a better place than this one. How predictably childish.. no real answers, no real understanding of this life at all.
ОтветитьHow is it that you justify the fact that most of the world doesn't have clean water? Why is God such an insecure narcissist who will torture you if you dont worship him? Would an all-wise being really be like that? Also, have you ever thought about the fact that, if God knows everything then he knows your future, and if he creates everyone while knowing their future, he then effectively designs their future predestining them to go to heaven or hell and thus punishing them for his ill design?
ОтветитьAlso, you have to understand that this whole argument "Darkness exists so that there can be light" doesn't work. Because, although in our current universe opposites do often indeed need to co-exist, reality is only constructed that way because God made it that way according to your belief system. He could have made the Universe function on a different basis, given us different senses, changed the way our cognition functions and the way we perceive reality and learn.
Ответитьblack people have very good skin protection against the sun. so :P And you wouldnt get sunburnt if you didnt stay in the sun so long, you can't expect to be invincible here. Jesus loves you all no matter how flawed.
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