How deep does English football’s pyramid go?

Make a video about Cray Valley Paper Mills Football Club

In which step is sunday league

West end park to the premier leauge when?

No mention of Wolves is very strange. First team to win all 4 divisions, but Swansea and Fulham get a mention? Strange. Insightful video none the less

Only 30% of players in the premier league are British.

We change ends at half time 😂

I was clogging around in the mud for my local team and was told the game was actually part of the FA Cup. Sure it was probably the 18th Qualifying Round but i got an extra sprint on.

Probably others you didn't mention but Wolves were the first two win all 4 divisions.

Where along the pyramid does it change from professional to semi-pro to amateur players?

My hometown's Liversedge. What a lovely shock that was to hear you mention it!

Man United and Chelsea are taking notes. Man United knows they will find themselves in National League North one day and Chelsea playing a public park at the 9th tier of English football because they will lose Stamford Bridge one day.

Mobility is important to football? Tell that to the americans who are starting to own all clubs and who want to have closed leagues with no relegation or promotion.

Yes, I've seen my own club climb several divisions since the 1960s and are currently in League 2 (fourth tier - once known as division 4). They even made it to the dizzy heights of League 1 for a few seasons, but got a nose bleed and dropped a division.

Yeovil broke the record for national league south on Boxing Day! 6,300 fans for Yeovil vs Taunton

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In France our leagues are similar
1. Ligue 1 (pro)
2. Ligue 2 (pro)
3. National (some pro clubs and some amateur ones)
4. National 2 (4 pools, soon 3 pools, last level accessible to professional club reserves)
5. National 3 (for now 11 pools but will be reduced to 10 then 8 pools in future seasons)
Then it's regional leagues with Régional 1 and 2 then départemental leagues and it depends on how each région handles that
Note that ultramarine territories all have their own system not integrated here but can enter Coupe de France

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About these route 1 Rovers. Name caught my attention

It's not a pyramid , you ignoramus !

According to football fans the leagues below league 2 are irrelevant or called the scum

As an American - I had no idea how deep that pyramid goes. That is insane. Seems like virtually everyone either plays in a club or knows someone who does.

Everything below the National League North/South is by definition irrelevant because it’s unplayable in Football Manager. 😄

I knew there were many levels, but thanks for details on the lower ones
I'm an American so I got into the sport via EPL matches on TV/streaming so that's most of what I watch, and other countries' top leagues or EFL games are what's otherwise most available
yet I have started going to the local minor league team's games in person

I used to play as a winger for a club in National league North while in highschool but after a ACL injury, an ankle sprain and a hamstring pull i have now decided to quit football but i will return to my firmer club as a manager for sure

Funny thing they call all thins below Leauge One, as non-leauge. But it is in f fact a leauge, as opposed to a cup.

As someone from South Gloucter, I am surprised Gloucter is in the northenr league. Id have thought the norther league would start from the midlands upwards.

What about that in Spain? In Denmark? Croatia? There are not enough league levels to watch?

Aah yes, the sort of Tifo vid that makes you start a new Football Manager save from Tier 9. Picked Andover Town of the Wessex Premier, because why not?

Can anyone with some months of practice and training play for any one of these lower division clubs ?

So if they don’t have enough spots, they might end up in a different league?

Should have mentioned Dorking United. They earned something like 12 promotions in 25 years. The guy who set up the team back then as a bunchnof lads at the most amateur level, is stipl the owner/manager/chairman and has created the football vlub from nothing

As a Martian our football league is also quite similar. We have ..

Some clubs who were in the bottom-est bottom of the pyramid could've made it in the premier league

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my local team AFC Fylde has had a similar journey, being in level 10 and working there way up too 5 level within 10 years and almost made it to level 4's League two but unfortunately missing out on overpaid team Salford city.

I wish the US would take on this league pyramid system. We would have a way better competition reaching mls, rather than rich kids paying to be in clubs and making it to mls.

Why so complicated...

Imagine just having
Premier League
Championship
League One
League Two
League Three
League Four
League Five
League Six

so on

I'm surprised they have not encountered the Balrog yet.

Are the number of teams of divisions of the same tier always balanced? If the number of teams of NL-North and NL-South are to remain the same, does it mean that some teams around the Midlands will be frequently moving between the 2 divisions?

So this means that in some regionscit is possible to play LEVEL 18, but in other regions maybe only in LEVEL17, because there arent that many clubs in the area. Correct?

Premier all the way down.

One team I wish success to get back into the top flights of the pyramid is Bury FC. They nearly went bankrupt after years of scrutiny and bad ownership.

Err you are a bit wrong tier 20 is lowest central and south Norfolk , devon Exeter and Lancashire and Cheshire leagues totaling 40 clubs I think

Jesus Christ didn’t know the pyramid was that deep , makes me want to play football manager with the lowest ranked team and see how long it would take to reach the premier league .

My team is South Shields (tier 6). Also, NUFC (Prem).
Back in the day, Newcastle played at home one week and SSFC played at home the next.
I took my young nephew to watch the Mariners. He was a Man U fan back then (my brother lives there with his Man U wife) and he asked "Is South Shields a Conference team?".
"Oh no!", I said "They're not as good as that!". (Level 9 at the time).
It blew his mind.
20 years later, he supports NUFC (he 'came out' to his mates at 14) and still keeps a weather eye on the Mariners' results.

My brother was right. When I admonished him for allowing his young lad to wear a Manc shirt he said,
"It's not worth the hassle. We'll get him eventually,".

More help could be given to the lower leagues, considering the money washing around in football, but it is a beautiful game. And if you're a South Shields and Newcastle supporter, it's character building.

I’ve never understood about the Isthmian league. It’s for teams in the Southeast. Obviously teams close to the border of another=league can swap from season to season. This hasn’t always been the case. Dover Athletic who just about as far a.way from a border have been that and the Southern league.

Teams on the Welsh border can have a 400 mile round trip to the East Anglian coast whilst Isthmian league teams rarely have a round trip of over 100 miles.

How is the right to play in a higher step determined with amateur teams that can have vastly different setups from season to season?

There's the 11 official parts of the pyramid set out by the FA. But based upon the different leagues for different regions, there are 20 tiers in total with the lowest being Central & South Norfolk League Division 4, Devon & Exeter Football League Division 8 and Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League Division C