22 Magnum for SELF DEFENSE?!?!? Walther WMP.

Would you say the sliding action requires less pressure than say a 9mm? I ask because the wife has weak wrists and grip

Kel-Tec have stated that a 40 grain .22 WMR round should reach a velocity of 1230 fps from the 4.3″ barrel of their PMR-30 pistol. This works out to 134.40 ft/lbs of energy.

This is a significantly less than the FN Five-seveN USG (4.75″ barrel), which can push a 40 grain bullet at 2009 fps. This works out to 358.57 ft/lbs! Nearly three times as powerful as the .22 WMR.

This does not mean that the .22 WMR is not a good cartridge. It simply means that the 5.7mm is optimized to be fired from a pistol, rather than the slower burning .22 WMR loads which are designed to be fired from a rifle.

Yep, whatever caliper you are comfortable with works - period. Your chances are 1 in a million you will ever need to use it so you might as well be confident.

I think it's good that manufacturer's try different catrigase and do different things with them. I have 22LR, 380, 9MM, 10MM, 45ACP, 41Mag. and now I have a Walthers WMP 22MAG and I really like it but I do wish the bullets were a bit cheaper and that's why I don't have a 5.7 price and availability. Good job on your review

I've heard they are to weak for self defense I sure would not want to get hit with one, I think it would ruin your day

Compare it to the S&W M&P 22 Magnum

My old mentor is 92 years old and he had to defended himself 7 years ago with his 22 WMR Ruger LCRx. He was 85 and his arthritic hands had just started acting up on him back then. He went out to let his ducks run free in the duck yard and some homeless wackadoodle was behind the duck shed and tried to rush him demanding money. Well he shot him 3 times with that Ruger LCRx 22 WMR and it disabled the guy and he was begging for an ambulance. Dude is still in prison and using a colostomy bag. Not my first choice; however if it was the only choice / best choice, I could make, I would be confident for sure.

I have an 8round 3 inch revolver ( Taurus 942M ) no FTE, no FTF, and if the round doesn’t go boom 💥 then I just pull the trigger again for a fresh round. You just gotta love a revolver! when it comes down to rimfire cartridges.

When you want a 5.7 but you're a poor😂

In an extended firefight, capacity means more chances for a hit that's not just lethal, but immediately lethal.

Granted, methheads just break all the rules so something closer to what you'd use to hunt deer and have a decent standard capacity is probably better

YES

The unreliability to me is not the shape, but rather the rimmed design possibly lacking primer in air pockets. Revolvers counter this.

Twenty two magnum will break the human skull and kill an adversary. Its lethality is not an issue. Affordability of bulk ammo will allow someone with a .22WMR pistol to practice cost effectively and hone their accuracy to a superior standard.
I’d rather gunfight an inexperienced shooter with a 9mm than someone who can put a 40 grain round in my eyeball with their first or second shot in a high stress scenario. Just my 2 cents.

Fireballs-R-US! 😂

Red Dots on a Handgun??? GTFO! Steel sights! Why "Red Dot" Oh, Because it's the "Trend"

Common sense red dot sight adds weight to the slide so if the ammo your using is a lesser grain it gonna short stroke the slide , your welcome

Just finished watching to the end of the video and I can provide one answer to your question on what niche this might fill" my wife currently has a Walther in 22LR that she enjoys shooting. My hope was it would act as the "gateway drug" to trying other calibers, but thus far, I have had no luck in getting her to enjoy other/more powerful calibers. I tried letting her shoot my 1911's in 45ACP, a 9mm Ruger, a 357 magnum revolver with 38spl, a 1911 in 380ACP, a S&W EZ in 380 ACP, and none of them were something she enjoyed (I even found an old Beretta in 25ACP, but its just too small to hold comfortably.) So, this might be the ticket to getting her to enjoy something more powerful than 22LR. Wish me luck!

Now that there are several manufacturers making 22WMR pistols, have the ammo manufacturers started making loads that are more pistol oriented (probably using powder designed to burn completely in shorter barrels?) I think I had heard in 22LR reviews that the Punch line was engineered for it??), but was wondering if there are others.

I asked reddit because I'm currently buying one and they all said it wasn't good I'm glad on yt where people use real facts and not opinions I was able to decide this bad boy is coming home with me next week

I'm purchasing one. Observation, some of the cycling issues with lower grain ammunition can be caused by hand grip position. If your grip interferes AT ALL with the slide moving rearward, it can cause improper performance with cycling. Keep the side of your hand OFF the slide. Better yet, use a heavier grain Bullitt.

Love the jacket , where did you get it? Links?

Nice review of the Walther. I'll take .22 Mag all day in a rifle. As a self defense round, a person had better know what ammo is absolutely the most reliable in any auto pistol, especially .22! Also a person had better be very good with shot placement in the head with the .22Mag (or .22LR)
Ask any cop how much lead someone can absorb when strung out on drugs and coming after you in a rage.

It's an expensive paper punch.

Looks like the issue with having optics comes from specific configuration of ammunition, particularly slug weight. Can you summarize which slug weights and tip type (hollow point vs. ball) that worked and did not work when the optics was added?

I like mine but I have the same problem if you want it reliable don’t put a red dot on it even the mini max cci won’t feed it seems to need cleaning to keep it functioning

With such low recoil .....why the RMR? Why design a full size 22 mag pistol when clearly a much smaller package works well vis a vis the PMR 30? Seems the answer is that it is a more affordable training pistol along with the new S&W.

I can't wait for you to check out the S&W M&P .22 MAG, might impress you more

I had some trouble with a lot of double stacking with my PMR 30....Sent it back to KelTek and they fixed the problem. I really like the idea of 30 rounds. I don't know if I would use it for Self Defence. I want to put the Bad guy down with one shot. Not so sure about 22 WMR.

Imagine if they made the 9mm into a Magnum round...

I want one to sleep next to as it lays next to my .44 Magnum!

Um… If you read the info that comes with the gun Walther tells you that it doesn’t recommend 30 grain ammo.

I have one with a red dot it doesn’t want to feed even the max mags I may end up taking it off it was more reliable with iron sights I’ve seen folks put a red dot on a keltek pmr and they have problems with reliability I like both pistols thanks great job

I'm new to pistol shooting and here in Australia we can only target shoot in a club.
So I'm looking to buy my 1st pistol soon and was very interested in this 22magnum for target shooting.
Would you recommend it ?
Or is there something else?
Great vid thanks for sharing 👍

The manual fully explains what ammo works best.

I would buy it.

Walther always works. But you have to use th tnt ammo from cci

I am considering buying a PMR-30 because I think it would be comforting to have 30 rounds available in your hand while in a vehicle or on a motorcycle. 😁

The Walther website has ammo recommendations for the WMP. All 30 grain ammo is NOT recommended. Federal 40, 45, and 50 grain ammo are recommended.

Mcarbo makes a mount for the pmr I bought one of these yesterday I like 22mag I have a pmr as well I wanted a metal gun I will say keltec has excellent customer service thanks for the video

Walther says that a 30 grain round isn't enough weight to cycle the slide. They recommend using quality 40 grain rounds.

How is 50g in it?

I bet some additional milling to lighten up the slide would maybe fix it?

Self defense from what? A skunk? 😅

I prefer the pmr 30 ive just installed the mcarbo kit in mine and its increased the reliability of the pistol my wife love shooting it and im looking for one for her now as well

Irresponsible...

And you can't find that mag cylinder..tells me a lot...

My first thought with the concept of 22 WMR as a self defense cartridge is that 5.7x28 exists. The 5.7 is a centerfire cartridge. Hell, there are more options on the market today for pistols chambered in the round. I want one of the Walther WMP's but mostly just because I want a 22 Magnum that isn't a revolver. Just would be for range fun though.

How does it deal with the federal 45-grain Punch?

The plain and simple answer is YES , the 22 magnum is definitely at the starting point of being adequate for a self defense round. The penetrate is exceptional for what it is since it's such a high velocity round, then you have 22 mag ammo made for self defense as well. The Walther WMP is probably the most satisfying pistol I have to shoot out of 13 others, being 9mm, 40 SW, 357 sig, mag, 10mm, 45 ACP, 22LR, 22 mag is like the 5.7 , or close to it without ammo piercing abilities .

I own this gun. I have a trailer in Eastern PA with other trailers in proximity. Without an optic & considering over penetration. I feel it's a good option for a 'Grab & Go' situation. I've sold guns in crowded NW NJ for 12 years so this is not a new revelation. Help that helps.