Alan Wake II Story & Ending Explained

I thought Saga got out of the dark place and that’s where she shot Alan, in the attic of the nursing home back in the real world?

Remedy is in TOP FORM

How did you get sagas blue oh deer diner sweater? Was it a mod?

Ok we need Alan Wake 3 now. Remedy? please?

I feel like the ending with the light bullet may have gotten rid of scratch but the dark place only stays strong because alan wake secretly doesn't want to give up the power he has but the power actually never was his. I believe the whole story is every one is a character in a story were the creator is actually the creator or mr. Door who just made all the stories such as control and max pain to entertain something or someone aka us the player. We are just a source for mr door to gather power for something.

alan wake is phenomenal now i gotta probably wait another 13 years for the 3rd game XD

There is alot more to the story regarding Tom Zane and Alan Wake that was hinted at in the game.
1) Tom Zane is played by the same motion cap actor (this is not a coincidence, but we don't have enough information to know why)
2) Ahti and Odin, and Tor all call Alan Tom Outside of the dark place.
Its explained that the power of cauldron lake doesn't manifest something from nothing, it only allows for things to be altered. So there has to ne a connection between Tom and Alan we just dont know enough to know what it is. My guess is they're the same person. Hopefully Remedy will provide more contex in the upcoming dlc and/or Control 2.

i had high expectations for this game but after playing a while.. i stopped playing.
i dont understand any of it.
the most weirdest thing is saga can know all the answers just by imagining in mind place..if she can knows all the answers why she comes to bright falls at the first place. hmm its all so weird.

This game is simply a masterpiecee

Can someone explain it all SIMPLY without dwelling into theoretical physics which I really do not like?

In the AWE DLC there's a door with a Spiral when you contact Alan so the answer was all the time in front of us

life) - but a bit of change and not “looping”’creates the light they seek and to break the chain. You see this with Alan, Casey, saga , etc. it seems like the writers wanted to make this into a game about searching for the intuition to be present and not continue over thinking in a loop as an analogy to the real life we can find ourselves in. The darkness seems to be an analogy for the darkness we can pay attention to or simply shine a light on to dissipate. You hear Alan say multiple times “ the dark place works in loops and rituals” - these rituals being the ocd habits of repeating the same actions hoping for a different result. As we do as humans at times. Also, toward the end of the game saga is stuck in her own mind - the game had gradually led her to lose faith in her own belief more and more and doubt her story (if her kid was dead) - such as an analogy to life and faith and self doubt - just some thoughts - I thought it was brilliant if that’s what they intended - Atleast I’m happy to have gained that from this art work!

Wirlin Door = Whirling Door
Tim Breaker = Time Breaker?
This game's depth makes me feel out of my element, Donnie.

i always thought AWE stood for Alan Wake Expansion cuz they said remedy has a connected universe. but it was alternate world emergency or smthing

I can make sense of the story, I just can’t articulate it if that makes sense?

I enjoyed playing saga story the most

Saga had better gameplay then Alan. Alan's stuff just made me annoyed lol

It’s so nice to hear someone factor in Control because that game did so much heavy groundwork for Alan Wake 2 and it doesn’t get enough recognition.

I’m definitely going to go back and play Quantum break and control again just to get more time in this world.

So here is my main question, Is Thomas Zane responsible for Alan Wake being alive? Because in the game you learn that the clicker was actually written into one of Zane’s stories so Alan wake could be the hero in the story. Can anybody please elaborate?

Mgs 4 pre game vibes with the tv like cutscenes.

Hey mr Tom my last name is caswell too 😊

Convenient the name Scratch also can mean whatever storylines would not work with the masses, then scratch that and back to the writing board for part 3

Theory about what separates Live Action Vs In-game Cutscenes:

In-game: Pages that stay the same after every draft of Initiation & Return

Live Action: Pages in the current draft of Initiation & Return, hence why Alan's hair is significantly longer & allows for the New Game + "Final Draft" update to ad new story content without extra motion capture and programming.

Ahti is a supernatural presence. In fact he's Paranatural Entity A-001, as described in Control. Have you played any Remedy games before this one? It doesn't sound like it.

Everyone will be busy playing GTA 6 when Alan Wake 3 releases…

as alice said its not a loop it.s a spiral u got to go deeper

What happened is that this game is the most compelling narrative we have had in years in this genre, it has top notch gameplay. Some of its segments are still with me two weeks after finishing it. What probably will happen tough is that this masterpiece will probably not get the recognition it deserves (game of the year) because it’s not as popular as some other stuff like spider-man or baldur’s gate or remakes like tears of the kingdom and resident evil.

Honestly, AWII has been my game of the year, and also a major disappointment. It has been awesome throughout when it was raising questions and unraveling mysteries one layer at a time, but when it was time to end it, it just didn't. It opened so many questions, and answered so few of them. It left me feeling conflicted and let down, and I having 2 DLCs already announced leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Because I'm also pretty sure the DLCs won't end Alan Wake's story, and imho, it'd really be high time Remedy did put the word END on it.

In my game no one answered the phone

So Yötön Yö was Zane's attempt to escape the Dark Place, much like Alan was trying to come up with a story to get himself out, Zane shot a film where he sacrificed Alex Casey (which I guess Alan Wake made it possible, considering he is the one that created Alex Casey, the fictional character) to escape. So Alan Wake can follow a similar road by maybe using some of Zane's stuff or even Alice's photographs. But my question is was Zane even successful at escaping the Dark Place? I thought he never got out?

meh would have rather had max payne 4

I’m pretty interested how Mr. Door and the Andersons mended their relationship enough to jam together and make a musical 😂

Is it me or does GameSpot feel a little different than it did before? 🤨

Saga was white in Quantum Break. I guess she went to the tanning salon a little too much.

For me, it is very clear that the end of the game precedes the beginning, that is why the story is a loop. The hole game is a loop in which the player is also immersed, every time we restart the game. The first scene in the game is Saga calling her dauther, as she does in the end. Logan doesn't pick up at the end because she does so at the beginning. The same happens with Alan, the first scene in his part of the story is him with the white bullet in his head, waking up.

According to what I read, the game + will add some story bits. So my theory is that the game+ will be us playing again though the loop to discover that it is a spiral and, in this new run of the story, it's starting to develop so it can finally end, arriving to the end of the spiral. That is why Alice said at the end hat she keeps showing the same things to Alan, that he has gone though destruction many times but they (and us as the players) are finally getting to ascension (the true end of the game).

Maybe those dlc will end this story.

Imo, I think that we actually " see " the old gods of asgard, in the musical sequence, we know that after the summoning, Alan is brought back to cauldron lake in the past, so in other words, the band playing in the screen of that chapter are Tor and Odin anderson after finishing the summoning ritual and going into the lake

First of all... how dare you? Secondly, why isn't Kurt narrating this? Kidding. Thanks for the video! (Seriously... there better be a Kurt Locker segment about this)

One of the motel doors has a spiral on it.

There's an absolutely bonkers place they could go with the connected universe aspect - the upcoming Max Payne remasters. Given how nightmarish and abstract those games are, they could be recontextualised as Casey's attempts to escape the dark place, spiraling further down into a city filled with violence and crime, like the stories he was written into.

This review is wrong. Alan, Saga, and Casey are in the real world. The ending didn't take place in the Dark Place. It was all in the attic of the manor.

Saga can't really call from that place because they're currently in the dark place she can't call someone from there. That's the first and only mistake I seen in the game.

I have been racking my brain to understand how Scratch had been tormenting Alice this whole time and this finally answers that! Thank you!

GOTY.

Alan doesn't shoot Zane, it was a movie, if you stay in the room seconds after the cinematic you can see Zane yelling cut and cleaning off the make up.

When you have to watch a video explaining the game’s story after you’ve just played the game, maybe the way the story was told wasn’t very good. Remedy almost certainly paid for their nomination spots at The Game Awards because there were definitely better games this year.