Why Yoda Didn't Believe Ahsoka, Ezra, Kanan and Cal Were "True" Jedi - Star Wars Explained

Or perhaps Yoda just told Luke what he felt he needed to hear to face Vader again

They were Grey Jedi similar to Qui Gon.

Y’all making this so complicated. Yoda was just wrong 😭

Not is all as it seams? Ok Joe Biden wanna try that one again? Lol

Luke was trained in the Jedi Doctrine and Yoda was wrong that’s why it had to change 😮

They weren’t Jedi yes that’s true, but they were ones who didn’t believe the sith either. They were just one with the force and only believed in the force.

Because Disney doesn't respect canon. That's it, nothing more, nothing less.

Even Legends writers tried their best to do everything according to movie canon.

I think Jolee Bindo was right and the Jedi are Idiots (slight paraphrasing here) for clinging to their doctrine and they are in desperate need to learn to look beyond ones own nose.

I hate that after all these years more and more Jedi just keep popping up and there’s only small technicalities that make it that they weren’t “real” Jedi. Luke should’ve been the last standing Jedi for it to really mean something but now we find out there is dozens just hanging out 🙄

being honest after yoda fled i stop giving af about what he gotta say ,any force sensitive who survives ,thrives and trys to do right is good enough to be jedi respected

I think it's a safe bet that Cal Kestis dies before the events of the movies.

Before Survivor, I would have predicted a last stand against Vader buying time for others to escape. That seems a little derivative now. Still pretty sure he'll buy it in the third game.

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Extremely frustrating how stubborn Yoda and the Jedi republic order were. Even after losing their empire, he still didn’t learn much about their ignorance.

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Yoda and his almost millennium years old brain don't know what the hell he talking about some time... just like grandpa

Agree with your perspective and explanation, I do.Well done and a necessary commentary.

I think it has more to do with the fact that these other characters hadn't been created yet, or even conceived of yet, when this dialogue was written.

ashoka, who proclaimed herself as not a jedi, unironically embodied the role of the jedi far better than any other jedi save for quigon

The more I hear about Yoda the more I realize he wasn't the wise old master we were constantly told he was. In fact, he was wrong more often than he was right and he was often selfish, overly dogmatic and manipulative.

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The more I learn about Yoder the more I question his wisdom

Simple…. None of those characters existed when Yoda delivered that line.

Baloney!

1980 Yoda didn't know the Walt Disney Company would be milking the franchise for every ounce of good will. Seeing the future is difficult, after all.

Let's be honest, they changed the lore around and with that have to change the meaning of it around xD

So, Yoda was a little bit of an exclusionary cultist asshole

Yoda is an interesting person from a different time; to be a true Jedi. His views and ideology throughout most of the series is very much is like the idea of religion in our real world. Definition and meaning for what it is "to be one with faith" will change as time, the world, and people change. That's an inevitable fact but, and however, the old teachings, devotion and allegiance to the word itself can be the most difficult understanding to bend. It's not so simple as to say those people are "set in their ways" as much as they lived and breathed that definition of what they knew. He lived for over 900 years, he has seen the Jedi from a vast perspective that very few characters have and yet, that of which he knew, understood would not and could not break despite the truth about what a "Jedi" is, no longer being that of which he knew.

Cal is in a very different time as was Ezra. They spent way more time fighting the galactic empire then Luke did. Luke had a few battles but Cal and Ezra spent many years battling the Empire . Luke was allowed to board the ship with the empire with Vader and sidious . That is not something that would have been allowed to non Skywalkers. Luke never had to go unto hiding. By the time episode 4 stars Cal would have been fighting the empire 10 years . Ezra not as long but that was because he was in that other galaxy. Cal killing Is based off a game and the empire in jedi survivor was actively pursuing him ..only Vader and sidious wanted Luke .

Ngl they shouldn’t of had yoda say that Luke was the last jedi since the how dave filoni and gorge lucas explained the force and they wanted to go down the force chooses u and so the jedi wasn’t never was going to die and the jedi only stand for protecting the weak and want to bring peace even if they have to kill or not and yoda was dumb to begin with the lord of the sith was near him surrounded by sith artefact and didn’t think anything of it and what annoys me is that the jedi had to evovle like the sith evolved and that why they won and after yoda died was honestly the best thing since the jedi need to evovle to push the darkness back and yoda was to subberen for it and the fact he could communicate with others through the force and thinking that they not a true jedi is wrong since in my eyes yoda failed them all

It's kind of silly to try to explain Yoda's statement about Luke being the last Jedi when, at the time, there were no other force users in canon other than Palpatine, Vader, Luke, Leia, and Yoda (Obi-Wan was already a ghost at this point), and Luke was the last living one to have received any training by a current Jedi who hadn't fallen to the dark side. Ezra, Cal, etc. are retcons and didn't exist at the time Yoda's line was written nor put on screen. :)

I like your reasoning here, but I think you should have included the above at the beginning to note that this is all retcon logic and the original saying from Yoda meant something else.

Of course Yoda called Luke the last because as of the writing of Return, the rest didn’t exist. It’s a continuity error plot hole that just needs to be handwaved away. If you need an explanation, Yoda, after living on Dagobah so long couldn’t feel the others anymore due to his proximity to the dark side nexus. As far as he knew Luke WAS the last.

Who cares Yoda was blinded from seeing that palpitine was dark lord. He failed to prevent the darkness from befalling on the galaxy.

:45 seconds in and we’re talking about how the line is wrong over ahsoka, etc. nevermind that it’s wrong over Leia being his sister. It’s just a bad line.

because yoda was written in 1980 or something by george lucas and all of these other noobs are written by cringe star wars fans recently. duh

At the time when the movie was made none of these other Jedi existed at that time, not to mention Kanan was trained during the clone wars, Ashoka wasn’t a Jedi as she had left the order during the clone wars she just made good use of her Jedi training, but realistically because being framed for murder and conspiracy the order did see that as her trails besides Luke, you could say that she was more Jedi than most, and their is a good chance he did know Cal. But even with Cal he was knighted by Cere which she was a master so she could knight him.

Easiest answer which is literally how it actually is, returning the Jedi was made almost 3 decades before any of the other Jedi that were put into Cannon which is why Yoda said in the movie that Luke would be the last Jedi, because at that time there were no other Jedi that were even created, Rebels didn’t exist. Neither did the Cold War or any of the Jedi games.

They didn't collect every stud in lego star wars, that's why.

Is Ahsola worth watching? I hear its pretty bad. And idc about her really, but i want to learn more about this Thrawn guy.

If Ahsoka would consider herself a jedi she would be a Knight for sure since she defeated Maul on mandalore and so prove herself to be Worthy

When gone am I, none of those "jedi" existed.

Dude literally couldn't work out who Palps was, what are we talking about? For an ancient super-powerful and wise being, Yoda made so many soul-crushingly embarrassing mistakes, it's amazing he didn't turn to the dark side purely from the intense embarrassment at how much of a failure he is.

To be honest, I’m getting tired of grandmaster yoda constantly being shît on by Star Wars content creators, whether it’s people etting books that portray him as some tyrannical bumbling misfit, or on line.

The line was spoken because it was a great, well written bit of dramatic content, penned decades before the expanded universe of books, animated series, and the prequel films.
It doesn’t actually have any significance beyond that.

Or maybe Yoda only told Luke that because he needed Luke to understand how truly important he is. This way Luke would become cocky like his father, and take crazy unnecessary risks.

This literally doesn't make sense, cal at the end of fallen order was officially knighted by a member of the high council cere junda.

One interesting part of the Shatterpoint novel, is when Mace Winru has a Force Vision showing him the future Yuuzhan Vong Invasion, and the Jedi from Luke's New Jedi Order fighting them on the terraformed Coruscant, and he flat out reflectshis horror with what the Force has shown him, that those Jedi's ways were so alien to him, that he refused to believe that was indeed the future of the Order. Yoda wouldn't think much differently.

Parts of this are factually untrue, social in regards of Asohka, because in Rebels Yoda do say to Asohka that by clearing her name from Bartis Ofee's framing of her as a criminal, she has shown that she was ready to receive the title of Jedi Knight, but she refuses the title. So at least by Yoda's standards, Asohka has all it takes to be granted the rank of Jedi Knight, and only isn't considered one because she has chosen to leave the Order due to the lack of trust on them after they failed her during investigation.

I find it hypocritical tho since sure Yoda was a Jedi master but he was an exiled Jedi master since Yoda didn’t see a force user being trained by an exiled Jedi counts since he is also a exiled Jedi

Most logical answer to this: Because the scriptwriters didn't know any better at the time, that new characters would be invented later to milk the fans.

I have taken it to mean the Luke is the only one who had completed his training under a Jedi master.