The Best Playing Tall Nations In EU4

You forgot about CHINA! They are made to play tall.

malacca.

As a tall player I twitched every time he said 'expand'. Some of the nations mentioned are pretty good suggestions but Florence in North Africa what

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Is that guy on the intro page Russell Wilson from the Seahawks?

Honorable mention to Geneva for being the only country that exists at the start that has a 15% dev cost reduction in their national ideas. The only other countries are Alaska and Australia.

About province dev I disagree, the best provs for dev is Chinas coastline, if not for their garbage religion, gov type and national ideas, there wouldn’t be a country that could take imaginary Westernized China out.

The top tall nation is Ming. With early access to +5 advisors, insane income, excellent trade nods, perfect ideas, religions harmonization and Mandate of Heaven mechanics Ming can get institutions and techs even faster than most european great powers.

I'm not sure a country that starts off with 1000+ dev can be considered tall, but Ming is surprisingly good for a passive "develop and colonize" game. You start with a huge amount of farmland provinces, and although you don't have dev cost reduction in national ideas, you can get it from Empire of China decree.

another fun nation to play talk as is Korea. it isn’t as strong as the nations mentioned in the video, but it’s always fun watching Ming explode 💯.

Rather than nanbu in my opinion a much better tall Japan is asakura while it isn't around in 1444 so isn't well known it gets rebels pretty easily and is in the game from 1471 onwards its main ideas are + 10% goods produced and production efficiency as well as -10% dev cost

The problem is where to spend all that ducats

ULM

Am I the only one loving to play tall Portugal? Not messing too much in the North Africa Berber provinces, staying in Iberia, developing land and colonizing the shit out of the New World

As you say top 10 tall nations... bad side of the video no new ideas to play... hahah good video man!

I think than polland is the most op for playing tall.

Too much power hungry.
My new favorite phrase on this whole site.

Actually one of the best nations for playing tall which is missing in the list is Majapahit after the Leviathan DLC with mandala system, their monuments and mission tree.

Poland —> Commonwealth that area is golden for devving, tons of farmlands and cloth combo

I think you forgot the most important English tall idea. Once you form GB you get the ridiculous +20% Good produced Modifier.

Что значит Tall nation?

I tried to play tall Netherlands but everytime I play tall I get a PU, when I played Holland I got France as a PU and I was like, What now?

I am actually really surprised Norway is not on this list, I pretty much only play tall in this game and Norway by far has the best tall playthroughs for me.

One interesting thing with Bavaria, if you get the Theainerkirche event, it's bugged so that it keeps giving you +2 tax in your capital every so often

I ended up with 40 base tax in Munich, 70 dev overall

Ulm is actually a great country to play tall, as it is in an area with a tom of cloth and farmland. Also you can form Swabia and get some big bonuses to dev cost and advisor cost. Tall Ulm is one of my funnest times in eu4

Jianzhou is the best, I’m serious.

Holland to Netherlands is a personal favorite. Especially when you are sinking British ships with Dutch Courage! 🇳🇱

shen's kuban cigar anyone?

What about Castile?

I found Poland to also be great at playing tall. Lots of low dev farmland, often with cloth, and same for your (soon to be) subjects of Mazovia, Lithuania, Moldova, Danzig, Bohemia, and Hungary. I'm playing a game right now where I formed the PLC, barely took any land, and have conquered about half of Europe through vassals by 1600. PU over Lithuania and Bohemia (both integrated), and Hungary and Burgundy. Vassals are Novgorod, Wolgast/Pomerania, Brandenburg, Austria, Byzantium, Aragon, and soon Florence. In just my own lands I have 2.2k dev, almost double of Ming, plus another 3.3k dev among subjects. Liberty desire is 0% for all of them, as the large amount of dev in my lands allows for big strong armies and fleets.

france? above the dutch? above the prussians? above korea? the fuck?

Goslar is good but imo Dithmarschen has better Tall ideas. I mean they are a Republic get an 10 dev cost reductions plus 0.30 Republic traditions. Also an extra Merchant and some Mil Ideas to defend your tall nation. But anyway great Video again Ludi!

Im sad not to see Hormuz here

I mean if you play your cards right Ming can be played tall if you do not kill your self 5 minutes within a Ming gsme

You know what I'm gonna play tall Ottomans

All I learned from this is Italy=tall

i like the goslar ideas but its starting province is really shit since its forest and not even a centre of trade witch makes plying a free city kinda pointless

Why do u sound like Jordan Peterson.

Do you have a guide for when to and when not to dev provinces and also some strategy’s you can use?

I only play tall with the "Roman empire"

Geneva is pretty good for actually playing tall, and not just painting the map. Small heretic super state that bullies all its neighboirs with endless mountain forts and ramparts you can expand into italy and change main trade node and then steal as much as you want from the new world by just lightshipping Sevilla.

I feel like Hamburg should of been on here especially over Goslar given its farmland, free city status, level 2 trade node, estuary, and high trade power in the Lubeck trade node.

‘Top ten nations to play tall’
>France! You can easily form Rome

Weird you don’t mention the dev cost reduction from cloth for countries like Holland but otherwise good vid

France missons are so op that it doesn't make sense to play long anymore. You gain so much land from missons that at some point you want to reduce your dev to gain more governing cap.
you can litterely own:

former france
majority of italy
some dutch and england lands
all of spain
majority of balkans and anatolia
syria and egypt

before 1500 just by following the mission tree.

The Sarig Yogir is spreading

Will we have a Zaporozhie to Poland guide?