Lethality & Armor Penetration in S14

Thanks for explaining it man, it definietely helps optimizing builds now! Keep up the good work! ^-^

hey man can you explain why lethality is better against lower armored targets? Tecnically armor doesnt have diminishing returns, so having +10 armor is always as effective no matter if you have 50 armor or 250 armor, so the same logic should apply to -10 on 50 armor or 250 armor no?

Love ur videos. Keep it up.

Great video, now i can actually be sure im building correctly and not wondering whether im right about which one is calculated first

Love this explanation bc my brain cant process all the info on the wiki about lethality and armor pen

True damage nasus is not real it cant hurt you

Nice vid but that Aatrox play was unbearable to watch.

1.Garen support with black cleaver (e removes 60% armor)
2. adc build % penetration item (40% armor penetration).
3. True damage

4. Problem?

Why 58%? How is this calculated?

I miss lord dominik's regards passive it was the best anti-tank item

So i was right, im not schizo, pen really calculates before leth

Hey, I was wondering how does Yasuo Ult's %bonus armor pen functions with other penetration items and if it's ever worth building, this is assuming you can ult targets.

Does yasuo r's passive works last?

Also, if enemy team has Rammus, Malphite or K'Sante you should prioritize black cleaver as % penetration item because they have armor scaling so by reducing their armor you'll also reduce their damage.

only real ones recognize the soundtrack 🥰

What if 5 black cleavers ?

Thank God. Now people can understand basic math - seriously though, for some reason people are unable to do basic math in League. It hurts my soul.

Can you show when it is smartest to go the %pen item (2nd? 3rd? 4th?) based on how high enemy base armor will be at a certain time

i just came up with interesting video idea
"how expensive are league skills"
like skills that grant stats such as twitch r, vayne r grant ad for example and twitch r is technically a free 1300g for a couple of seconds

Hold. Im still in shambles. % pen reduces/ignore armor way further than lethality. Then why %pen builds as last items?

Does the %pen only reduces base armor and Armor sbred reduces all armor?

Ao if you have 80 lethality and enemy has 79 do they get negative? Or 0?

Only on lvl 18

Please, put a calm game in the next one, I couldn't pay attention because I kept focusing on the irelia X aatrox 😂

THIS BUILD IS VERY HUMAN.

Honestly if your character can build dominic just always build it even if the target has 100 armor it gives basically 40 lethality is juts stupid

there is just way to much % armor pen in this game
my idea
butt ldr up by 5 ad and - 100 gold
but reduce the armor pen to 30%
on mortal reminder same + 5 ad -100 gold
but 25% armor pen
abilitys like nasus e or darius e passive down by 10% per level
black cleaver down back to 25% armor shred
seryldas back to 20% armor pen flat but - 100 gold
...
in exchanche nerf the damage on heartsteel a bit but give it back 10 haste
nerf sunfire damage hp scaling from 1.75% hp to 1.25% hp
but give it 50 hp and 5 armor
LESS DAMAGE ON TANKS BUT LET THEM NOT GET ONESHOT

Can you do a video on attack speed and attack speed ratio on champs? Like when a champ should prefer to build attack speed over AD, etc.

This is Interesting.. (I'm a Mage Player)

To summarize shortly.
Lethality is better against low armored targets aka Assassins onto squishies.
% Ignore or Reduction is better onto higher armor targets or late game (most champions have 90+ base armor at Lv18)
Defense Ignore is for yourself and does not lower the targets armor for others. Defense Reduction applies as a debuff and it benefits your team overall if they are mostly physical dps, in addition it also lowers the scaling onto armor champions like Rammus Malphite K'Sante etc making them deal reduced damage/scaling as well.

I like how in arena any lethality build turns your damage into true, sometimes even against 1k armour rammus

ty my one and only Saviour lol havoc

Lufia 2 ost in the video? :O

Why isnt lethality just called "armor penetration" because now that they changed it to grant instantly 100% of its value, then it makes it basicly the same as armor penetration

Very nice and effective video

+1 sub! 🫡

Does this build work for Nasus too?

Waow I didn't know this applied for all teamates, I thought it was "local" for my damage, that's insanely good then in teamfights.

Could’ve sworn %pen was calculated after lethality, hence why back in the day BC was better for assassins because shred is calculated before

This is explain in a such easy way thanks a lot !

Is it the same for magic pen?

Somebody should send this vid to naayil, he's been wondering why riot didn't let him buy both black cleaver and serylda

Also it should be notified

No matter if you go lethality or percentage first.

The percentage will always outscale lethality in upper levels

Simply cuz even adcs have 100 armor with 1 item that grants armor (even the lowest ones) alone when around 16

And right now the highest lethality we get is 18 (i stoppes playing a bit so it might be wrong)

I just go for first item to be lethality and second to be percentage.

Its just better and most times if your going for lethality, you build 5 lethality not just 1 simple item

And ONLY 1 percentage item