Crazy 48TB SSD NAS and Cheap 6TB Version Asustor Flashstor FS67

These m.2 SSD are The Same Speed but Cheaper Silicon Power 4TB UD90 NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 SSD
With they work in the Asustor Flashstor FS6712X? Save me $50 buck per ssd? $159 each 4TB

two questions Can I use the SABRENT 8TB Rocket 4 Plus NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme in the
Asustor Flashstor FS6712X ? Also , I is use only 8 Slot of the 12 slot ssd with 8 drives @4tb m.2 ssds?

Still expensive af in third world country

That's great until you're crying because you blew through your TBW. Those Crucial drives are garbage.

Did Simeone try to run Unraid on this? Is the BIOS accessible to Switch the Boot device?

Have you tested mixing and matching NVME sizes and makes in JBOD?

I dont need it, but i want it

WOW

Why does it look like a PS4?

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Why RJ45? It heats up too much at 10 GbE. SFP+ would be much better choice.

I really want to like these, but... Maybe they'll be releasing some non-gimped versions soon. I guess even 25Gbps and 40Gbps links would bottleneck the NVMe drives in RAID. But doing an all SATA SSD NAS wouldn't make sense these days since SATA SSDs just aren't competitive with NVME in terms of pricing, capacity, etc.

I don't like the design. and the price is still high. Over 620 euro's.

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I got the 12 drive one. It became clear very quickly it was nowhere near as legit as my QNAP but it grew on me pretty quickly once I begun to appreciate what it was and stopped trying to compare it to other things. I have since decided to use it as the low power central hub for my media center data, apps, and related docker containers. For that specific purpose It's pretty damn slick and multiple Plex 4K playback is smooth even with the CPU pegged; doesn't matter, it stays responsive. Its whisper quit and small, so it disappears in my entertainment rack. The UI and the apps are not as diverse as QNAPs or as apple-y as Synology but it's experience overall is very serviceable.

For a power user needing to host VMs and manage a diverse set of workloads this won't work; it can't even support multiple VLANs on the same NIC. VirtualBox feels like its trapped in the 90s. But for basic use or even modernly advanced needs, I would recommend this.

The key test of SMB server is browsing large directories, which is the problem for any NAS. Create a directory with 30K files and then open it from a client. See the green band of death in Windows Explorer? That is it, you see how actually good or bad the NAS is. Copying large files is irrelevant for NAS. Cheap 1Gbaud is more than enough for streaming purposes. Streaming is normally a client-side problem if the client lacks hardware codecs.
If you do not care about power consumption, a normal desktop PC with Linux Ubuntu and zfs built out of old turning rust drives is more than enough.

NVME is still not even close to HDD pricing for big NAS Storage.
Do the same with HDDs and it's 1/10 the cost.

Strange conclusion "So overall, do I think these things are great? Absolutely... not" but overall you seemed happy with it and the complaint that immediately followed was about the form factor and seemed pretty minor.

I hope Synology will release a similar model with the DSM...

thanks for your review. I'm about to go for the 12-bay one but I have doubts. It is only for Max studio in 10gb network. could you configure 2x2tb raid 1 (Time Machine) 4x2 raid 5 for Final Cut? and 2x2 raid 1 for Max applications and the nas itself? Could you do it little by little? first system apps then finalcut…. etc (for not having to spend all of one. Would you be able to do that and manage the different raids? Obviously you would look at the ram you have and expand it. Do you know what the Maximum is? I understand it will be ddr4 or dimm 2666? Thanks for your attention

Man thats a shame its so slow. For the price you should get PCIE4 at a minimum.

I'm not surprised it kept crashing with higher capacity RAM because the Intel Celeron N5105 supports a maximum of 16GB of DDR4 at 2933MHz. I imagine as soon as the system deposits data onto memory outside of the 16-gig-pool the CPU recognizes, it freaks out and goes "Derp, poof!"

The Chinese vendors like Topton etc should replicate this kind of hardware with better processor, max RAM capacity and PCIe 4 support, all at better price.

I love it, a sort of reasonably priced solid state NAS for camping. Never thought I'd see such a thing discussed by an corporate enterprise IT Pro, lol, but intriguing possibilities definitely come to mind for personal media libraries.

The issue with your picks is the $ cost. DIY is the way to go.
There is little justification for these devices once you figure out how many dollars can be saved or how much more value you get for the dosh spent.
This leads me to wish that YT needs to make it easier to block channels. This is not the way. Waste of my time.

Very cool! How does is the power consumption you measures compare with HDD NAS setups?

800 MB/s This is insane, you could have used 2 sata ssds in a raid0 to get the same performance, my god. This should be illegal

This is insane. nobody should ever buy this garbage. a single nvme drive can saturate that 10gig port multiple times. Completely irrational

Even if it's for storage only, not for speed, you still need at least two network ports, because if it's for storage, well… it needs to be redundant to fulfill that purpose. That's the point of both a disk array and putting that array on the network vs directly attached. There's no excuse for a single port, regardless of speed.

so tis a ps4 O_O

id really like to have this in a 1u form factor

I have an old 5 bay Synology with 4+1 14 TB drives installed. It works well, but… it would be interesting to upgrade it, due to longevity of SSD’s. But NAS systems are essentially dependent on their software. Who makes the software for these units? It would be nice to know the features and stats.

I hope these do well enough to prove the market viability, and then better versions are made.

The link to the 712X is directing to the 706T

Don't by this one. Buy an i3 10100 or comparable AMD processor with 16 gig of RAM Desktop. Add Duel 10G Copper RJ45 card. Build a TrueNAS or Proxmox server for the same cost for multifold better performance. Multiple SATA SSD in ZFS will provide much higher speed than what you get here.

now we need a solution to join these together to a single network share, dont know how it can be done, but if we want 200TB+ replacement for spinners I will need to work out how to merge the shares client side

Considering the price they are a steal. I just rebuilded my Homeserver and to lower the Powerconsumption i got myself a PCIE 16 to 4nvme Card. The Board doesn't support Bidurication so the PCIE Switching Card costs around 200 Bucks alone. I have some old HDD as cheap Data dumps too. My Problem would that i have some VM's running with RDP on my Homeserver. (Gaming-Server, Virus Sandbox etc) so the performance wouldn't be enough. It would make a great Network Device. I think a nice 6/12 CPU from Intel/AMD, like an 12400/13400 or 5600G/7600. The possibility to upgrade with 64GB ECC as top of the line modell of the Asustor Series would be great. It would require more Cooling, but make a 1HE oder 2HE capable Housing and you got a great Microserver, especially the 12 NVME Slot Version. The 750$ Version is a little underpowered with the CPU, 150-200$ more a bigger CPU and more Ram and it would be a real great product.

I LOVE the angled look of the Asustor Flashstor, in a room full of cases and boxes and equipment - they stand out from all the plain black or grey rectangles ! :-)

Thanx Patric! Truly amazing devices. I hope we see more manufacture come out with these. I got an old Thecus NAS I want to migrate across to new NAS.

Thanks for the review! I like the concept, but the cost is too high for my taste. I've two 6TB NAS (one is used as backup NAS) that together cost much less, are much smaller, consume less power and do not need a fan. Only disadvantage, I use HDD's for storage and 1GB NIC's. That's good enough for my use-case. But if prices go down, I'd consider switching to M.2.

You didnt do any storage benchmarks ? What is the use of this video then ?

There is no ECC on these, is that really okay for important storage? Can you maybe in a video make a few comments on the importance of ECC memory?

Daaaaaaaamn there's a quick way to kill NVMe drives! Super quick way. Especially cheapo slow ones with low endurance like the ones he installed. lol. Should definitely throw quality drives from Samsung into something like this, but probably avoid this type of gimmick all together.

$840 for the empty box, and $2880 for the drives. using it as a network attached storage device you're asking for trouble as SSD's arent happy when used in a read/write heavy environment. ill stick with my retired server with 8 22tb mechanical hard drives

Why do USB 2 ports even still exist?

Seems Amazon and other sources are back ordered into August.

I'll bet you could do a spot-on Kermit the Frog imitation. :) Are there any RAID capabilities? Those speeds up/down seem awfully slow. Well, maybe not.