$1,400,000 In Debt & Lawsuits, Jamie Thomas Had To Sell Fallen Footwear

Kinda makes me wonder why Allie was so against Cole, sure when he came in he wasn’t in the brands image but he eventually became what the brand image is now

Not going to lie, I remember meeting Jon Allie my first time skating at BlackBox park. Guy was a complete dickhead!

I bet he’s got a nice house tho 😂

Fallen makes great shoes. The 2000s styles looked better, but the 2020s models definitely perform better. On my fourth pair in a row. Just got The Troopers and they're everything you could want from a shoe. The Chief got pretty screwed over in that whole business, but he did create some of the very best skate companies. You seriously deserve something out of it, if not respect

Just watched Welcome To Hell again whoooah 🤙

Cole looks board

I rocked Fallen hard back in 2007

screw addidas and especially screw nike, The fakest skateboarding shoes around. I hope they go out of business.

Too see Fallen nockoffs or relabels in swapmeets selling for high dollar breaks my heart. Theyre obvious Fallen shoes sold in bulk with no label through some distrobution process.

Amazing.

The quality of the clothing from Fallen is the worst I have owned of skating apparel, a close second is Sweet Skateboards. Their stuff looks good, but falls apart quickly.

Jon Allie sounds like a diva......I remember the name Chris Cole 100 percent.....I remember the name Jamie Thomas 1000 percent.....I had to look up Jon Allie....🤷

I definitely skated on a farm in Wisconsin lol

Yeah that's definitely the Fear Factory logo.

fallen is amazing now

it’s also cool to see people from different teams interact

Hail to the chief always

Jamie brought zero tour to every city in Canada when they started. I was young but it was amazing. They skated through the streets with the whole crowd after and all gave away multiple boards after 15 mins of use

It was K2, it was corny because it's a rollerblade company. I couldn't agree more, Jamie.

Man Fallen and Zero were my favorite growing up and I always wonder wtf happened.

Absolute pioneer in the game but he comes off as pretty arrogant.

WISH YOU COULD BE TOY MACHINE.

I wanted to be this man so badly when I was young haha.

Big respect on having the foresight to steer clear of corporate ownership. The company I worked over a decade of my life for got bought out by a mega corp a few years back and it just sucked the life out of everything. Decisions get made and orders handed down related to financial issues on the other side of the globe. Despite my region having its busiest and best financial quarters I consistently had to tell my 30+ overworked staff that our operating budget was getting cut again. Corporate sucks.

I feel like Jon Allie was just worried Chris would take his spotlight. Jealousy is a bitch.

The AB blend feature is so AMAZING. So many creative uses for it. I use it so much 🙌🙌

"I'm a recovering workaholic" hahaha

I don't see why Chris wasn't seen as a good fit, I couldn't imagine him on any other team.

I’m in Indiana in the middle of bfe and I have skated sense I was 5. And zero is one of my favorite board companies because of Jamie and cole. It would sucked if I couldn’t get any skateboards here.

I took from this a lesson in bad business. A what not to do.

Fallen is finally fallen. 😂

The Art of the Business of Skateboarding 😮

I remember on SKATE wanting the fallen shoe sponsor so bad

First expensive shoes I ever purchased. I was in 8th grade and there was a skate shop across the street from our school everyone would go to. I remember I spent like $60 on a pair of grey shoes. My buddies dad tried saying they were affiliated with the Illuminati because of the name lol

Jamie is the man but dude there is a loooooot of skateboard companies. It’s like every skater is making their own companies now. And of all the names for a company “Fallen” sounds exactly like Falling. I just could never wear the products, I mean I’ve fractured my arm for falling on a skateboard 🛹. Fallen just never sounded like a good name, Zero is not very good either. He’s a good skater but kind of lacks the real creativity to make creative brands. I understand the reasoning behind Zero about not really standing out, but you got to admit it’s basically Zero creativity behind a lot of it. I just hate it cause Fallen made awesome shoes and nobody wore them besides people that might have like Jaime

This is crazy. Grew up watching these guys skate in the early 2000s and now in my 30s watching them in podcasts 😢😅

So many skaters in the industry didn't like Chris. idk why it's like they knew he would rise to legendary status and didn't want it to happen....

Dude why didn’t cole become a model

all the legend brands great storys :)

He did well to admit fault but

Maybe because I’m watching online I can’t help but feel like Jamie is kind of an narcissistic

Even in skateboarding you can’t get away from politics

Zero success was dependent on THPS game promo, and Fallen needed CCS to stay successful.
THPS became less relevant over time, and kids nowadays don't even know what CCS is.

I have a jacket hoodie that you can zipper off the hood. Super unique and haven’t found one like it since.

Cole WAS Fallen. End of story

I want to see this circa Cole shoe that designed , been trying to find it

leap of faith ..
launched skateboarding into what it is today ..

I'm a socal (Ventura) millennial ..
this is guaranteed .

Chris killed it on dying to live

Wow take two zeros away and that's my debt!

My best friends started a skate shop in our small town in Northern California. One of the first brands they went after to bring into the store was Zero. I'll never forget reading the email they sent back saying the shop wouldn't make them enough money so there was no point sending them product. FUCK JAMIE THOMAS & FUCK ZERO I'm glad they failed.