A MASSIVE Change: GORE-TEX's New Membrane

A MASSIVE Change: GORE-TEX's New Membrane

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@myrddinmuse
@myrddinmuse - 05.12.2023 20:16

Nice video! Big change for the industry.

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@Argcz
@Argcz - 05.12.2023 20:21

sounds good to me

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@-TheRealChris
@-TheRealChris - 05.12.2023 20:24

Well the original GORE-TEX was super disappointing and it sounds like this is going to be worse again by a decent margin.

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@Rocky_Hill_Iron_Works
@Rocky_Hill_Iron_Works - 05.12.2023 20:28

The only accurate video I've ever seen about GORE-TEX was the one FortNine did, worth a watch.

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@rorymarston7849
@rorymarston7849 - 05.12.2023 20:36

What happened to the Scarpa veloce review??

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@c0okiemon5ter
@c0okiemon5ter - 05.12.2023 21:04

I would really like for someone to make a serious comparison with Dermizax NX

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@johnfletcher9907
@johnfletcher9907 - 05.12.2023 21:23

Great vid thanks and I do agree with the direction manufacturers are moving, however I think they need to look closely at RRPs given that the result of a more environmentally friendly product is essentially a less effective one. Or atleast one we need to spend a frequent amount of money on reroofing. In todays society of subscription living where we don’t buy things to own anymore we just pay monthly to have access to them, the whole re proofing a waterproof has always felt a bit of a con to me. Plus if you look into how goretex basically racketeers the waterproofing clothing industry by forcing brands to sign lengthy and restrictive contracts in order to use its fabric and logo on their products, (seriously look into it!) the whole thing just feels like consumers are getting shafted.

I seriously wonder if economically speaking it would be better to buy a cheapo waterproof and just throw it away and buy another a few times a year when it stops being waterproof than to outlay 400 quid on a jacket which for the life of the thing you have to spend 13 quid every few months to keep it working.

There’s maybe some unforeseen freakanomics type irony to manufacturers trying to be environmentally and passing the cost onto the consumer which just forces them to go elsewhere and buy disposable mass produced stuff to use and throw away. Environmentally speaking I think the could be a big own goal!

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@christopherdavidhall
@christopherdavidhall - 05.12.2023 21:32

Basically means that gore is made the same as everyone else's high end membranes...

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@milco8755
@milco8755 - 05.12.2023 21:47

So… breatheability is effectively going to be taking a hit unless you are prepared to watch seam tape degrade on your jacket through regular washing. How will that affect warranties? Or will we be expected to tape / seal seams in the future?

This will be fine for the majority of consumers I imagine with the exception of outdoor professionals?

I know you have sponsorship requirements and don’t want to annoy anyone but I think a video in the future showing off different membranes would be very informative. E.g goretex pro ePTFE, Goretex ePE, Pertex Shield, e-Vent, Fjallraven Eco-Shell etc etc etc.

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@hoppy1970
@hoppy1970 - 06.12.2023 03:54

No mention of the breathability figures anywhere that I can see online.

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@telkmx
@telkmx - 06.12.2023 12:54

this is an ad no ?

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@cw-bm
@cw-bm - 06.12.2023 13:02

Please do some actual tests before shilling a predatory companies ‘new’ tech. You’ve really missed the mark here.

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@StephenTurnerVlogs
@StephenTurnerVlogs - 06.12.2023 13:06

Unless your jacket is coming apart at the drama, just keep cleaning and proofing it.
Why don't companies work to repair their millions of products, for less than the cost of a new jacket, and maybe don't maybe jackets for a year?

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@juanjo834
@juanjo834 - 06.12.2023 13:30

If the outer layer gets wet, the jacket takes on more weight and it perspires less. If it also has to be washed on a regular basis, the heat seal is destroyed, this is obsolescence program, The first generations of gore tex lasted 20 years which is not very profitable for the industry and very ecological, these products in the name of environmentalism last 2 years if it arrives.
Greetings, there will always be Wallapop and eBay lol 😂

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@jacobhandyside5863
@jacobhandyside5863 - 11.12.2023 15:26

what they're talking about isn't a lie but it is very misleading: YES the new ePe doesn't affect its waterproofing when it gets wetter faster BUT it does affect its breathability which they fail to mention (convenient eh?). When a jacket 'wets out' like that the breathability of the jacket is hindered massively (that's why we have DWR in the first place).

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@21sanooj
@21sanooj - 12.12.2023 19:20

What pants are those?

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@trooperwolfie
@trooperwolfie - 17.12.2023 19:25

So goretex is now the same as E-vent....if i was event, id sue gore.

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@funNactive1
@funNactive1 - 30.12.2023 03:17

Get the PFC DWRs now while you can. I like my equipment too work!

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@khalid969
@khalid969 - 07.02.2024 14:49

If this new technology was any good, they wouldn't need people like you to "sell" it for them. What this basically means is that the Gore Tex jackets will now wet out within 20 or 30 minutes, thus rendering the jacket no longer breathable, which in turn renders the jacket no longer fit for purpose until you wash it and re-apply the coating. In this case, you might as well just go ahead and buy one of those $150 jackets with one of those inferior membranes, or even buy a PE coated jacket for $50!!

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@alexanderslee
@alexanderslee - 14.02.2024 15:24

Comparing GORE-TEX ePE to an electric car or even better, the analogy of more maintenance being like skin care (thanks lady!), is the proof I needed to know that this is a sham downgrade for us consumers.

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@tonys9923
@tonys9923 - 29.02.2024 03:24

What a stupid video.

Wet out exterior equals end of breathability, end of story!!!!!

Therefore this is going to be less breathable than gore-tex of old.

Like most products that have gone “ eco friendly” they have become less effective!

An inconvenient truth for eco-fanatics.

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@christopherdesantis9876
@christopherdesantis9876 - 06.11.2024 05:45

Hmmm... Why not use the femtolaser tech on the face fabric so no DWR is necessary? Not like it's a new technology, jacket will weigh less and... No chemicals required ? Come on R&D, put some effort in.

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