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Typesetting history without mentionig TeX?????
ОтветитьI wrote in Troff back in the 80s for a magazine we published. Then you would go down to some basement at the college and pick up the rolls of beautiful text so you could cut and paste them onto your layout. Still gets people when I say I did cut and paste literally - with an x-acto knife!
ОтветитьMany of the details of moveable type and early typesetters are not completely correct. The blank metal slugs are spaces, not leading. Leading are longer strips of lead or aluminium.
I've never heard about fibre optics in photosetters, moveable lenses, mirrors and prisms were the norm.
When setting by hand not only are the types mirror images, you also read them upside down. You build (compose) the lines, type by type, in a certain tool - a composing stick - that easily holds a few lines of type. Then you move the lines to the galley where the page is build. The pages are put together in the form.
Did he just say 'fiber optic bundle' to transport a single optical letter? Wow - that's the first I've heard of fiber optics in such a (semi-)historical context.
ОтветитьI'm so glad he gets the pronunciation of Univers right.
Ответитьwhat's his name ?? where can i find more about him?
ОтветитьThe type is probably made from a lead-antimony alloy, which has the peculiar property that when it cools and sets, it expands slightly so that the metal squeezes into all the corners of the mould and makes nice sharp edges.
ОтветитьMost notable by its omision in this video (or the related computerphile videos I have so far seen is TeX. DEK does get a brief mention in one video but nothing about TeX ir Metafont. Strange, because I know TeX was in use at Nottingham in the 80s.
ОтветитьVery interesting! Thanks for making this! Its great to not have a video that's rushing to finish!!!
ОтветитьBrady, please hold the camera still if possible or use a tripod. I feel like vomiting watching this!
ОтветитьAs a typographer & graphic designer I loved this! Thank you!
ОтветитьEvery "Desktop Publisher" needs to see this. I learned some of it through my undergrad, but there's a ton of interesting info toward the end! Thanks Brady!
ОтветитьI wrote my first resume in nroff. But printed it on a laser printer. I didn't know how much history I was jamming together.
ОтветитьGreat history lesson!
ОтветитьI wonder if they'll devote a whole episode to LaTeX?
ОтветитьOooh I feel a video about LaTeX coming on... Can we have a video about LaTeX??
ОтветитьTo be fair, most inventors refined existing technology so that it became practical.
ОтветитьVery good recap of the history of typesetting-- only disappointed he didn't get to LaTeX.
ОтветитьMetal movable type printing using bronze was invented in Korea in 1230. Gutenbeg's greatest invention, the hand mould, could rapidly cast letters using a low melting point (~250C°) alloy of lead, tin, and antimony that is used to this day. He was helped along by preexisting inventions like the olive press and the fact that the Latin alphabet needed only around 100 characters. The 3000+ symbols needed for the Chinese language (or even the ~1800 Chinese characters used to represent Korean at the time) continued to make large scale woodblock printing more practical in both countries for centuries.
ОтветитьI could listen to him talk about anything. He has a very soothing delivery :-)
ОтветитьMost people don't know exactly what Gutenberg's invention was. He put a movable frame under a wine press. That's it. He created the first movable printing press, not the first metal type, which was a Korean invention of the 14th Century.
ОтветитьI was training on PDP-11's in the 70s in Massachusetts at DEC, and seem to remember there was a lot of push back from the printing unions about this new typesetting method replacing workers.
ОтветитьI absolutely love listening to this man.
ОтветитьWhere does Knuth's TeX system fit in to all this?
ОтветитьVery interesting again, thanks a million!
Ответитьall theese vids are way too short... i want more indepth discussion.
ОтветитьOn the theme of typesetting, is a LaTeX episode in the works? I would like to learn more about LaTeX's history.
Ответить"representing data in a " puts on glasses computerphile....
ОтветитьLinotype FTW!
ОтветитьThe Caslon italic ampersand is the most beautiful piece of typography in existence.
Ответитьold people of the future are going to be so cool
ОтветитьThis kind of history is so important to remember. Thanks for making these videos, Brady!
ОтветитьThis man is a living Wikipedia!
ОтветитьI don't think this should be relegated to an "Extra Bit", I think it should be up with the other videos on the channel. Fascinating stuff!
ОтветитьWhat never fails to blow my mind is how utterly fascinating and interesting any imaginable subject becomes when explored in depth, and even more so when beautifully explained by a knowledgeable and intelligent person like Professor Brailsford.
Keep up the good work providing the best entertainment for high(and sober, whatever floats everyone's boats) people!
I think the audio is a bit low on this one, checking your settings and comparing to other episodes might be a good Idea!
ОтветитьI did a bit of type-setting when I was younger. The characters were read upside-down and back-to-front (so you could read left to right). Everything had to fit perfectly, otherwise any loose characters would just fall out. There are still a few printers' terms in use today, such as 'mind your p's and q's'. And apparently, though we never used it, the term 'dog's bollocks' which referred to the dash and colon :-
A little video on printers would be nice -- daisy-wheel, ink-jet, laser. 3-D How they work etc. Just a thought.
OMG I GET IT computerphile = computer file
Ответитьwhat about MEPS used for printing top 1 and 2 most spread magazines in the world of 2013 in over 100 languages simoulanously?
ОтветитьThanks a lot :) it was a very interesting tech history lesson
ОтветитьAre you going to cover TeX anytime soon?
Ответитьhey computerphile, really like the videos, but could you pleeeease work a bit more on your sound? I always have to turn up the volume to almost max, and if I forget to turn it down after your video it blasts my right off my chair..
ОтветитьVery interesting. Thanks Brady.
Ответитьlol, these seem to be A LOT of extra bits
ОтветитьGreat stuff! A related video on the development of TeX and LaTeX would be equally awesome.
ОтветитьPerfect nonetheless again on computerphile :D
ОтветитьApple and Microsoft?! Hahahaha :P
Ответить\TeX
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