Java is mounting a huge comeback

Java 8? I develop programs with java 7 (I wish I was joking)

WTF do you need Java in 2023 if there is C#

As a c#/js dev who only did Java and c++ in college I always thought they were essentially the same. I guess Java and c++ devs would disagree.

More than half of Java programmers don't even know how to create anything without SpringBoot or IntelliJ IDEA... meaning, that Pivotal and IntelliJ are doing the job for them. Those are exactly the same people that A.I. will replace. I'm self-taught (no student loans or bootcamps) and make a low 6 figure salary in an affordable country in Europe, when I interview someone I ask them to solve a problem without SpringBoot / IDEA. If all they know is how to follow a tutorial, I will have to be constantly babysitting.

I am sure the survey is very scientific.
Can't understand anyone thinking C++ is somehow better than Java, other than for the most demanding performance.
You can rewrite the adder meme with BiFunction and a lambda since Java 8 (<< 21).
And now, it's going to have the most awesome green threads implementation, maybe except Go routines.

Pen testing is well paid, fun, and legal, CHECKMATE!

I don't generally watch the "developers community" because most of the developers are like children pointlessly arguing about things that doesn't really matter. They don't see way too far of their nose and so things like if the main is enclosed in the class or not is a big deal for them .. which is beyond ridiculous. But I cannot find myself laughing on the same poor jokes over and over .. it's just not even funny anymore and most of the time I don't even notice. I wish you had better jokes ..

Too opinionated.

Java is ok. If you add Lombok and a couple of other things, it really becomes usable for something more than an extensive Hello World application (I am a senior software engineer, who started programming in Java in 2008).


The biggest advantage if Java is, that there are many developers, that are available to be hired. Sure, not everyone can do everything equally well, but HR usually doesn't care all that much. Some HRs still think having a OCJP certificate means something when in reality it just means you can learn stuff by heart quite well regardless of whether you'll ever need it.

Ill miss java joke

I cant belieave that many people dont like java its one of the best languages in my opinion

We do have System.out.print() tho

5 years old c# calling IT wants Its features back.

Something that was never gone can't make a comeback but too bad about the public static void main string args memes.

I also disagree that it's great for people who have to learn Java. The verbosity of Java is actually good for learners because it explicitly shows every programming concept. Other languages might have the same concepts but just hide them which is bad for learners.

But it's still good for Java devs to make the language easier to use. I think the popularity of Kotlin has really lit a fire under Java.

Java sucks, but y'all the jobs are for Java, why? I don't f* know. There's no reason to use it over any other language. You want performance? You go for C++, Rust or Go, you want easy code? You go for Python, C#, Node, or Go.

It's not hard, I learned C and Assembly in the highschool and university, it's just that Java sucks.

The language sucks for sure, but the JVM is a state of the art.

Why does everyone hate Java?

My team recently upgraded from Java 8 earlier this year to 11. I had no idea we're on 21 😂😂😂

But all of the world is stuck on java 8 anyway...

How to make Java good according to Fireship: Take away the OOP which then turns it into not Java. Every suggestion that ignores the fact Java is designed to be primarily object-oriented is a bad suggestion. If you don't like the design patterns then I'm sorry to say that Java is not for you. It's not a Java problem, it's a YOU problem. Stop trying to turn every language into Javascript or Python because you favor those languages.

I have a re-exam of java and idk if I will make it

For Java, the future is Java Version 21 and later version (bit still it is java).

For Python, the future is Mojo. Because Python is fu*ked up and cringe in large scale project due to its dynamic nature and retarded super slow interpreter.

For JavaScript, there is typescript. Because JavaScript sucks in large project due to its dynamic nature.

So at the end, Java still remains Java, but Python would be replaced by Mojo and JavaScript would be replaced by Typescript. 😂😂😂

LAME! <code> println ("Hello Bob!")</code> is valid Java code since the JShell is out there, which is much more than you will ever need, and it's out there for 10 years?
Keep on sleeping.

Jeve Developer here since 2004 whose mainly code in java and also python, bash, scala ... Java is best lang ever for me

Still dont understand why we can make a language with easy Syntax and c like performance if Google wanted they could do it ohhhhhhhhhh I forgot carbon

lol

So java is trying to become Groovy ?

These kinds of videos showed me how java wasn’t the best language structurally to start out with. (Though that was the language i had to learn first at college).

If java was a zombie I would hit its head with a shovel.

auch i cant imagine how it will be to program in java without public static void main string args

"people forced to learn Java" - You made my day.
So you think a programming langauge cannot be in all these three categories "well payed", "interesting" and "legal"?
Reminds me of a political joke from Germany after 1933, telling us that you cannot be honest, inteligent and Nazi at the same time.

The second you displayed the meme about which Java versions are actually used, I remembered that no, it's not just the language that I despise.
Honestly, it feels too little of an update to actually be a comeback. Easier to learn? Well, I'm betting that people will still learn from the sqme tutorials and teachers who will talk about public static void main string, and the second you will encounter something as trivial as reading the command line, well...

As for the rest of the updates, it's nice, but too late I think: just like in C++, most of these already exist in libraries that do their job well, I'd assume.

DO NOT LEARN JAVA UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE

I just wish Microsoft Java wasn't a pain in the ass to use on platforms other than windows. It looks much nicer than the original.

Its the same with most microsoft products. You see its designed by really good engineers only to be crippled by the management. Just look at NT, its a really, really powerful kernel under the hood. But what is it used for? Exclusively Windows. And always has to run with all those bandaids for MS-DOS backwards compatibility...

NO F*CK JAVA

If you want to learn about the future of Java, take a look at C#

Me who using Java on netbens: :)

Java dev for 8 yrs, well paid, high demand

I hate Java so much its not even funny haha

Only like now writing microservices for banks in java17 after years of beta testing😂 java21 is probably half a decade down the line not as if changing string interpolation in my opinion made much of a difference

This is analogous to iPhone fanboys being stupid over some "new" feature that Android had 10 years prior. I'm sure this is a nice thing for legacy codebases that won't ever be replatformed, but Java is still horrendous and no one in their right mind should write new products in it. I love Kotlin and the number of language features it borrows from others and how it attempts to smooth over the really ugly parts of Java, but it's still based on the JVM and that's unfortunate. I'm definitely biased being a dotnet guy, but because it's faster, more composable and flexible, better documented, better architected, and at its core just a better runtime.

C# is the version of Java that Oracle didn't want to make but now has to

Wow who paid you to shill that piece of shit language

this had me cracking up 😂. well done

Look ma, without public static void main!