INTRO How & Why To Change Your Motorcycle Fork Position

I absolutely love Dave Moss and his Brilliant Methods. Think Smart = Working Smarter. He's absolutely Brilliant.

An interesting video.

It is always worthwhile checking and returning to factory settings first, I had a new Honda, one fork leg full of oil, none in the other; mistakes happen.

Could you not raise the oil level and by reducing the air gap give a bigger distance to bottom out ?

Personal opinion on the stock suspension on 2018-present honda cbr300r/cb300f?

Do you offer course on suspension setup

Im so use to high bikes like dirt bikes, thats my preference to dance with.
If I lower either end on my street bike, I know Id scrape badly in the turns.
My exhaust, frame, & gear box cover are all already road raked on both sides from scrunchy lumpy corners around town.
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Dunno how many seen of this, it's always too complicated to tune my suspension correctly. For street!

Im an aggressive rider no chicken strips on the rear, I only weigh 125 will full gear! If i did this to my 07 600rr what would the consequences be? Will i benefit by raising the front forks (lower 1/2 inch)? Thanks in advance Dave!

I also ride a street triple. So if i watched carefully, bottom out is 20mm from the bottom and the buffer should be at 40-45mm from the bottom? But for example, If take some preload out this might change the rider sag as well. What is leading? Greetings from the Netherlands. Love to watch your video’s.

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Dave, so i watch lots of your videos, and what i understood so far - that factory version setups of all bikes is coffins???? i am surprised , no one ever sued any of manufacturers. and i never seen that any of them said - dont ride hour product before you take it to dave :) :) :) :)

I have conventional forks with damper rods and no compression adjusters. My preload adjusters are backed out all the way. Fork caps are flush with a FLAT triple clamp. Using the zip tie method I'm using 2/3 travel. To get to the 3/4 point, can I soften the forks just a bit by removing a small portion of oil in each leg? If so, by how much increments would you recommend?

I have a quick question on this. I have an S1000XR and I get a slight front end wobble at high speed cornering (90mph+ sweepers). Increasing the rear preload decreased this wobble so it makes me think it's a problem with the pitch of the bike. Usually increasing how much the forks stick out at the top make the bike more agile but less stable at speed due to reduced rake, but would it help with the wobble due to pitching the bike forward and putting more weight on the front? I don't really want to go higher on preload as the ride would be too harsh and other handling issues arise. The bike has electronic suspension and putting the damping into the sporty setting also helps a bit with the wobble but it's still present. The forks are currently level with the triple tree so there is no room to go down. Any help would be appreciated!

Bloody hell Dave, I just bought a 2010 Speed Triple and I am vertically challenged. Only today I bought a lowering link that lowers the rear suspension 1.6” ... I will then need to lower the forks. I am starting to think I have made a mistake !!!

I've heard dave say, before, that he's NOT strong. What poppycock. The man played rugby, and is built like a tank.

Just wanted to add, after seeing you do this on the r6 and noticing a difference between my 2 fork legs, I decided to attempt to correct that only on the outside leg. And it was frightening. It helped that there was a lot of preload to take out, which I did, which made the process a bit easier. Does that make sense? Or was it just placebo?

Also dave, pls get a ratcheting spanner 🙏

Great vid!

Can we get rid of that "Here's a preview" voice? It's weird

I lowered my front end about 1.5cm once and immediately got a tank slapper from hell. I put my forks back and will never mess with that again!

It’s a fork, not forks!

Hi Dave
On triumphs the position of the forks is measured form the line of the crest/grove on the fork, below the top clamp and the bottom surface of the top triple clamp.
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Thanks for the video !

Looking forward to your SLO visit, Sir Dave!

There's something missing after the second ride clip......

Dave, How worth it is it to change preload to help or hinder turn in rate knowing it will change sag settings. Thanks

Hi Dave. I’m having second update as the first didn’t went well. I’m having KTech Razor R rear with 140N spring (i’m 122kg-270lbs) and front cartridge from KTech as well with 10N sprinng in it. Am i okay ? And what oil do you reckon ? It is Tracer 900 GT 2020. Do you reckon fork raise or lowering it ? Thank you !

Ask Hyacinth after Richard (RIP) set the table!

so my '05 R1 turns in way faster than i'm comfortable with, but once i'm at lean it feels sluggish to get to the absolute edge of the tire. now i did swap tires and got a higher tire in the rear(55 instead of the 50 that is factory size), that does increase the weight on the front i know that, however i cant increase the front height, forks are flush with the triple clamp up top. i assume my best option is to get a rear shock that has ride height adjustment and dial the rear ride height down a notch or 2. then again, i've only done 2 trackdays on this bike and it's so different from my previous trackbike, i'm still finding a good baseline setup for the suspension, setting sag to a certain book-number is too soft for my braking ability, i bottomed it on the first session. have a trackday planned next week, going to experiment a bit with compression and preload.

The adjusted fork didnt seem much different when done, compared to the other side

Why put half a video on ?

Hey I have 07 ninja 650r . With my wheel straight my handle bars are turned to the right a little how do I fix this ..

Is no one asking the question? How do I know if I'm a candidate for raising or lowering my forks? Is it all about the fork travel and limits? What if I should raise the front but the forks are already (at factory setting) level to my triple clamp?

Does this work when using rearstand lift? Thanks

What's the stock height for an 2005 zx10r ?

As a young man I once loosened all the nuts on the triple tree without a stand 😂😂😂

Just smack the top with a hammer 😅😅😅😅😅😅

Vytass, ever heard if you have nothing to add that is constructive close your mouth. Or my favorite two eyes one mouth, use them proportionately. You get it Vytass

you make this look so easy. I had mines lowered at 1.7in and tried to make them 1 inch flat....... I ended up with 1.85in T_T. zx10r

Since the forks are tied together top and bottom, how could the left side have more pressure on it just because the bike's on the kickstand?

I own a 2022 RS660, I'm 5'9" and the bike is a bit tall! I purchased a 1" lowering disc from AF1 Racing! They told me to lower the front forks the same length! Is there going to be any problems with this set up? I am def no pro at geometry on bikes! Would much appreciate your opinion on this!

But what’s the Purpose of lowering your forks From Stock Height, I would Guess quicker turn in? What’s the downside? Riding Postion or what?

Hi Dave I am hoping you can help me out. I am a big guy at around 350lbs so basically my bandit 1200s k6 is basically 2 up permanently. How can I stiffen up my suspension front and rear to suit my needs? Please advise thanks.

Hi! I have a yamaha xt 350 that I bought used (obviously ;) ). The old owner has moved it down but I am unsure if he was just short. I am a 190 lbs guy and only drive on asphalt. Should I move it back to default?

Just want to confirm my understanding from the video - Raising dropping the folks doesn't change the height of the handlebar, right?
In the video Dave is making the folks taller so the front suspension would sag less than before? And this would also increase the wheelbase as well as rake, trail right?

I want to do this on my fjr1300. But I fear that the weight would bend the forks. I also don't know if it's doable with both forks connected to the wheel.

CBR954RR….loves to wheelie,crazy light front end,controlling low end torque.I read a recommendation to drop the forks about one inch.INSTANT corner stability along with heavier springs and thicker fork oil.

I got 2023 BMW M1000R and it's notorious for front end being "wobbly" light. I has my suspension set up by the shop and also DDC as follows Front down 2 Rear down 2 and 10.I weight 217 pounds.When I told the tuner I that my front end feels light at higher speeds and acceleration , he then suggested to drop the triple tree down by 5mm from stock ( I did not write down what stock was).On the ride home I noticed the motorcycle not as as agile in the corners and ruining wide and I have to push on the handle bars more.Any suggestions? Should I simply go back to stock?

Hi dave sir, I have a cbr650f 2017 model motorcycle, I changed the tires from the original factory output 180/55 to 190/60, now I want to adjust the folk, but I couldn't manage somehow, I want you to help me. I will make the payment online. I am waiting for your answer with respect