The ULTIMATE GA/TW Counters Guide! | Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes

Ummm.... you spelled tier wrong

I think a Nute/Dooku/Sep counter can work pretty well against Padme. But, obviously, mods and gear will create differences.

Thanks for the counter guide. Looks like the power creep meta is real for counters and tiers. lol For some reason hearing the ewoks chirping during the end credits always makes me smile.

When I saw "Teir" I shed a tear...

The effectiveness of the anti-Malak team of JKR team with Thrawn has nothing to do with the speed on Thrawn. You need your JKR to be at least +2 speed faster than their Darth Revan (after Jedi speed bonus) and GMY must be slower than your JKR and faster than their Darth Revan. JKR opens with Direct Focus on Darth Revan and then GMY spreads tenacity up. At that point it doesn't matter what happens because their Darth Revan can't fear due to increased cooldowns, and DSBastilla can't do anything because of tenacity up.

What about asajj lead with nest? Seeing this a ton in TW

I've actually had a ton of success with First Order teams against NS.
Somewhat unrelated but in 3v3, the most fun I've ever had is with Phasma lead, FOST, and FOTP (zeta's required on FOST and Phasma). I've seen seven, eight, nine straight assists it's a ton of fun.

empire seems to work well against padme

My GG team usually has 2-4 fights because people just underestimate him, and if it only takes 1 fight then they’ve burned a meta team on him and don’t have one for GR.

nice spelling on tier :)

I took out a G12 Grevious squad (sun fac and geo solider) with only 1 G12 ewok team

Ewoks counter First Order

This might be the best video you’ve ever done. Really nice job.

dude ewoks are great. they can counter just about any tier 3 and some tier 2 teams no problem. I personally like to save them for stuff like fo. think you have them very under rated

VS. Padme - zPalp lead, Vader, Thrawn, Badstila, TFP/Tarkin, typically wins without the Padme squad getting a turn. I don't have DRevan so I can spare Badstila, but I imagine TFP+Tarkin in the last two spots works. VS. Bastila - I like to use Qira lead, Nest, HYoda. Qira usually dies so it doesn't yield full banners, but it's a cheap counter which frees up better teams to use elsewhere.

Bastilla shan fallen with palp lead works well against nightsisters i win every time

Another counter to Phoenix: Ewoks. I always keep Ewoks for offense so they don't get solo'd by Nest. Their turn-meter train just completely wrecks Phoenix, with Logray removing their mass counter effect. Found it to be deadly.

gg - tier 1... gets easily beat by tier 2 teams.... math.
worse yet, gg has no chance of beating those teams.. math?

glaring problem here. when only one counter on your recommend list... and that being RJT... pretty sure you're screwing yourself if you rely this much on RJT to counter everything... she can only be used once.. so you need more options than given here.



as example: FO can be countered by many more teams... cls, wiggs, veers, rex/wampa, ewoks if done correctly...

Great advice and cool counter guide for TW and GA. Its interesting some teams can be used for multiple counters while others are specific to one team. Thank You for the guide, video, and content!

I have used palp lead against padme successfully 4 of 5 times so far

Usually use jtr against bossk. Shuts down the taunt. Gotta be careful to not let boba kill a toon, looking for banners

Another counter for FO is my boi Grievous with his droids, 30 second battles!

Regarding countering the Padme team, I think Ahnald showed that some sort of Palp team was pretty good at it.
Nute & Dooku could also be alright, cause Dooku can go under their protection.

You can finish off Baslita lead team easily with (speed moded) NS.

Nightsisters can beat CLS easily too - just take out Chewie first.

I've seen cubs ' ga stream, wouldn't trust his counter advice as far as i could throw him

Great vid cubs!

Hello Cub, you forgot the counter for CUP on defense. Can I assume there is no counter and accept the loss on either TB or GA?

Teir 4....

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I love using my under-geared Ewoks against ZKRU teams. It is something most people don't think of but it works really well. I have taken out FO teams with 30k more GP than my Ewoks.

ok so counter everything with cls or traya :P

Not sure if this is meaningful or not, but I have found good success beating Nightsister teams using Palpatine lead and Darth Vader, Thrawn, Fallen Bastila, and Asajj. Not only have I beaten equal gp NS teams with this line up, but even significantly higher teams as well. Not sure if it's a fluke or what, but it has worked multiple times for me. Thanks for the video!

Thanks for the DUMB#$@% advice to use CLS as Padme counter, zCLS,C3po,zR2,zhanjust got clobbered in 2 min

I run through padme with my palp and dark side bastila

Another viable counter to Jedi Knight Revan would be a Traya team. It does need to be modded correctly though.

I always try going cheese and ultimately losing the entire battle. I've known who counters who but always try comming up with something more optimal which made me end up second more times than I care to remember

Traya needs to be on the Counter to JTR.

Bastila is excellent against Palp and CLS

Very good

How does CLS counter Padme? It's a team that does too many attacks out of turn

Now, CLS and Jedi Knight Revan has a hard time against Grievous.

This would be helpful if i had 6 JTR squads being that they are the go to counter for most of the galaxy.

Use bastilla against Papa Palp.

Good Video as always. However, there are 8 potential squads in GA and you suggest suing Traya, CLS, RJT for multiple teams. Unfortunately we can only use them once. Could you make a video showing the 8 most likely defensive teams in GA and then counters to them using each team only once? It would be beneficial in building my squads.

First Order aren't just a potent counter against Bounty hunters, they are also one of the easiest. FO has the capability to come out with a full banner count against any BH lead thanks to the KRU lead's effect.


That said, FO can also get potently countered by the very existence of Sion. Don't matter where you put him, give him a lead that works with him and he shuts down FO completely because they can't kill him fast enough to stop his Held by Hatred.


As for Palpatine, Bastilla lead is a very potent counter against him. Her Bonus Tenacity from the protection up destroys them entirely.


As for Nightsisters, FO can also counter them really well. Same principle as with the bounty hunters, they are extremely survivable thanks to the KRU lead, so much so that sometimes Plague ends up healing itself away because the damage it deals is equivalent to the healing received, being 5% Max Health so you're quite literally neutralizing Plague entirely by nullifying it with equal healing. And FOX's stacking is more potent than Asajj's because by the time someone does for her to get her rampage FOX will already have increased his health, and thus his damage several times over. I have never lost a single NS fight with my Fo as far as I can remember and my FO are pretty garbage modded, save for my KRU and FOO.


Last but not least, I have been finding some moderate success in beating CLS teams with my FO teams. It's just a bit RnG dependant. If my FOO gets stunned by Han's shot at the beginning of the battle, it's a loss. Otherwise, I just have to kill R2 before he uses smoke screen. if R2 dies before Smoke Screen is used, CLS can get defeated by FO. I might actually submit a clip to that once I get to making one.

My murderbears (with zeta chirpa) at g11 can kill all but the very strongest g12+/g13) First Order teams. Qhich is really.helpful as not really useful anywhere else!

You really just hit me with Wampa for a Phoenix counter no shit why don’t you give some other lower level options sense there a low lvl squad dumass