AMD just proved they're not your friend - Threadripper Pro 5000 Announcement

13900ks over here with 24C/48T at 6Ghz

Threadrripper was never meant for "the enthusiast". Desktop and workstation are VERY different classes of computers.

They are for workstation class machines - to be used by Engineers, Mathematicians, Video editing, etc.

Most enthusiasts will be ok with a Ryzen 7. The Ryzen 9 is good enough for low end workstations.

Multcore is a must if you deal with streaming and virtualization if you cpu cores are not used that means you have a broken cpu scheduler in the os

But .. but .. i only have 22 cores in my Xeon E5-2699Cv4 Workstation. How will i play both Minesweeper & Solitaire at the same time? :D

@ "Even power users are having a hard time imagining howto fully utilize 16/32 cores/threads" .... well : make -j $(nproc) ... when speed matters

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Great video man! Advices like these would encourage PC Enthusiasts on not to spend unnecessarily on tech.

Threadrippers were never meant for IPC chasing gamer crowd anyways. They were a godsend for STEM researchers, Data Scientists, and Software Engineers who could not afford high priced high core EPYC/Xeon servers. Threadrippers were the best bang for the buck for the latter niche group.

Can confirm the memory constraints with 16 cores. I can push past 200gb in a serious virtualization workload with older cores, imagine how much moar workload modern Ryzen can handle. But even that is a seriously niche category.

Deep learning guy here. I use all CPU and GPU cores there are possible. (Especially GPU with CUDA) There are guys like me but we are a minority. For most people those systems are overkill.

Absolut understandable

Update: Threadripper Pro 5000-series and motherboards are now available for DIY builds.

Like you with warranty?

I just bought a threadripper 5975 and I find myself using 30 out of 32 cores. Time to look for dual socket lol.

And I am Anthony! lol

Anthony definitely needs his own shirt that says, "And I'm Anthony!"

I got the thread ripper pro 64 core cpu in my gaming rig it does a damn good job. But it's not worth the money though their 14 grand now I do believe they used to be 8 grand..

I’m glad I found this. This is the context I’ve been looking for. I’m looking to build for the very first time. I’m a developer that wants to run a bunch of VMs, occasionally gaming will also be done. I am very conflicted what amd cpu I want. I want a bunch of cores but I wasn’t sure how many is “enough”.

Damn this video aged like milk

This is quite simple:

Intel hasn’t released HEDT because - as you said, Ryzen.

HEDT as a platform has suffered because of DT investment and absurd price creep for hardware - motherboards namely.

Not to mention NVIDIA/ AMDs unceremonious abandonment of SLi/ Crossfire.

Real shame.

I need a thread ripper with 69 cores and a 6900xt for reasons.....

AMD is a corporation. They will become anti-consumer. They are just lesser of the 3 evils in the PC components market at the moment.

Well, your whining is a bit exaggerated, Linus: the non-pro Threadrippers were throttled by their memory bandwidth, which is why they were replace by Threadrippers Pro; although I agree that it is a pity that the sTRX4 socket got abandoned after a single generation.

We need a third company for this. Only two players in the world are creating monopolies. Apple silicon octa-core mobile CPU beating the crap out of Intel and AMD consumer-based CPUs. If even apple only goes that way, Apple's 16-core desktop consumer CPU will make AMD TR cry.

So does this mean we will be seeing a 12980xe or 13980xe anytime soon?

Time to buy Intel again ...

I disagree with your conclusion. I feel that the chip shortage is the reason AMD have gone with just Pro chips.

They have limited chips to sell, so are selling those with the greatest profit margin.
If we didn't have the chip shortage, I think they would have had a full line-up; ready to take as much business as possible away from Intel.

HEDT is useful for software developers to have affordable computer that provides "future" core count for applications they develop and optimize it for high core count with 4+ DDR channels.

Well Zen 4 cannot come soon enough. Intel has killed off HEDT despite competition from AMD where they actually had a good HEDT platform when they were always on top and AMD was a distant memory almost bankrupt before Ryzen. Now Intel despite their being competition is just stacking more e-waste cores on us while maxing out at 8 p core and forcing hybrid arch down our throats which is not for everyone with no option for more than 8 cores with great IPC. Intel was actually better and more well rounded even when there was no competition. Their HEDT platform was great. You could get up to 8 cores that gamed just as well as 4 core quads on mainstream and could do so much more. Only $1000 for 8 core Haswell-E or Broadwell-E and $300 to $400 for motherboard in an era where no game could think of more than 4 cores. Now games often require at least 6 or even 8 and having a little more could provide overkill headroom. Intel has no such option now on modern arch with more than 8 good cores. They did back then where they had modern option with more than 4 good cores in 2014-2015 despite no competition from AMD. Those prices were a bit high, but quite reasonable for HEDT platform in contrast to nothing existing now except Super high end server class stuff with EPYC and Threadripper Pro CPUs that may be sop well binned and can clock so high, but cost $5K or more nevermind $2K motherboards. The HEDT scene is worse with competition than it was when Intel had total control.

If only Intel would release a 10 P core Alder Lake CPU on current platform since they have no HEDT. AMD just please release Zen4 anytime now.

cant you just buy the worck station and move it to your owne case like iff you a rich it isent a problem

Sample use case of a developer who would actually benefit from TR being around: someone dealing with extreme-sized codebases. If you have to recompile constantly, and even small changes can cause huge compiles - let alone just doing test runs on new branches - performance matters. Even on something like the Linux kernel, running allmodconfig - the gold standard for testing kernels work - on my main system, let alone VM, is already painful enough with an R7 3700X, and there I use all my cores. Dispatching out to a CI server doesn't even make that much sense because I need the binaries local for testing and I'm not doing anything while I wait for the load. Not to mention this has to be repeated for each patchset as each patchset typically consumes a local git branch - meaning recompiling. Don't forget bisecting on any project; something with 1M commits (like the Linux kernel) takes 19-20 full compiles just to find a bug's source, let alone all the compiles in the attempt to patch it.

1950x Slow ? Its a bit of a strong statement. What is SLOW ? Running a few FPSs less? Give me the right to respectfully ask... For what tasks ? I work in 3D, using Houdini and other 3dApps every day, and i am using the 1950x for the last 4 years straight. It could be faster on some single treaded tasks of course but still, work with it flawlessly without feeling the need to upgrade (yet). Especially because any upgrade now would cost a lot ! :)

We the DiYer and enthusiasts are being wedged out. They’re going to make our culture dumber than ever before because one day we won’t have the choice to build a pc and learn the things involved in it. Way to stunt the human race government corruption and corporate greed!

Who ever thought a corporation was their friend? They’re higher than a ladder that’s forever.

"Ahh linus is at It again ranting about evil corporations"; as one should - God.

Who buys threadripper CPUs? That’s why they aren’t selling them.

I have a feeling that zen4 might push the x670 platform with 24-32 cores to compensate for thread ripper.
If they can push 16 cores to 5.5ghz, they can put 32 cores at -/+ 4ghz easily.

amd = intel

At least for gaming, considering the new consoles are 8c/16t, practically people won't need more than that. Even for streaming since the consoles do that natively too. Double the core count and your way overkill. It sucks for low cost workstation builders tho.

Can it run Crysis ? 🤔🤔🤔

Everything makes sense, my 10900k is actually a BEAST and im insanely happy after nearly 2 years with it, probably will hold for 2-3 years more without a doubt.

This kind of hardware only sells to a minority of potential users.

I do some pretty CPU intensive stuff, like Chess or Go board analysis, but 6 cores is enough to do that unless you are a grandmaster. And that's probably similar to the most demanding CPU usage the average consumer is ever going to do.

Omg gatta rehash 32 & 64 core cpus ever year otherwise you’re not my frienddddddd need to render this 16k footage 2 minutes faster for $5000 otherwise I’m going to dddiieeeee

I don't care both of these cpu lines cost more than my entire rig

yeah but then theirs mac

Threadripper 1950X is slow? WTH?? Using it on a daily basis with 3-4 VMs running at the same time and it's amazing! Agree with all the video but this part.