Leaving DND 5e for Pathfinder 2e | PF2e Guide

I've played D&D 5e, D&D 3.5, and pathfinder and I still like D&D 3.5 most. In fact, anything is better than 5e.

Yep, I am playing TTRPGs for past 30+ years, started with AD&D and now I play mostly Pathfinder 2e. Much more versatile than D&D and gives A LOT of options in terms of character development and customization.
Playing with my friends - we follow almost the rules.
Making a adventure session for my kids - I just drop some mechanics I find unnecessary in this scenario.
Pathfinder 2e makes me feel cosy, like in the golden age of D&D 3.5, but it's not a copy, it's a development of 3.5 ideas.
Ah, and Paizo have a MUCH greater proposed value per your buck, WOTC is trying on Games Workshop boots.

You'll have to pry 5e from my tiefling warlock's dead hands.

So, how's it gaming?

Forgive my tardiness....
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Be forewarned, Logan Bonner, one of the monsters that built 4E is lead designer and his fetid carcass stinks all over 2E pathfinder design. Welcome back boardgame designed garbage. And with the remaster you don't have stats, just the bonuses. How strong is your character-oh he is a +3 strong. WTF guys. abstraction is immersion breaking.

We should go back to tsr DND

Conveniently using the name of 5e to shill for PF2e

Excellent video. One addendum: it is easy to heal up with Treat Wounds (medicine checks when you have training and tools) out of combat. So even though sleeping doesn't restore all HP like in 5e, you can heal people to full HP over the course of several hours if you are trained in medicine. Or have magic healing.

bow attacks not having strength modifier to damage only "makes sense" if you've never touched a bow before

I tried to do the same, but I never wanted to read four novels to play a game so I came back to the easy one lol

I was interested right until I was reading their website, and everyone had their pronouns front and center. At this point, I'm ready to farm rules, lore, etc and just home brew a system.

Everyone should convert! Its just better!

Well made video, but this has removed my curiosity to play Pathfinder 2e. The mechanics seem silly.

Pathfinder is, imo a far better experience.

We swapped wholely to PF2e in early 2023. Love it…

I'm going to link this video to everyone putting in all those tiny homebrew perk systems to spice up 5e. Literally just play pathfinder.

I might just be a 5e normie, but this is all just a bit crunchy, not overly complicated. I also notice most that want to play Pathfinder are long-time DND players that reminisce on older editions. I've already tried learning pathfinder, and most of my fellow players criticized me like minmaxxers do in any game. I do also want to point out, if your melee attacks use strength and the weapon, why do ranged only use the weapon? Are you saying anybody can just pick up a bow and it shoots the same as any other person with a bow? That's absurd and really tells how little people think of accuracy with ranged weapons as a whole. As far as I can tell, pathfinder is for folk that want a more "realistic" (absurdity) fantasy game where rule of cool NEEDS an actual described rule, for anything, as that's when these players complain (because they need a rule to tell them how to do something cool).

Love the idea of hero points, it gives you player Caracter a chance to pull of a crazy anime scene without being too op, like imagine your Caracter is about to die, you have hero points, and you explain how somehow by either intervention from the gods, or an internal will. you refuse to die, you will succeed in your cause and you will fight

You could have the villain say something to light a fire in the hero, or have the hero replace on all that they would lose if they were to die in that moment, and get that sudden inner strength to keep going,

That's one of my favorite parts of anime is when the hero is almost about to give up but gets that second wind, and the fact that pathfinder lets you create those story's, say those inner monologues to your friends and hype up the rest of the table, that made me pick up this game yesterday,

(i know you could add that rule into D&D but i just don't like the company)

You should consider it too.

i love pathfinder setting just wish people around here played well anything, stupid small towns. will have to look at my 2e book again after this

Exactly the video I needed, and I enjoyed how thorough yet concise your script is. Easiest like and subscribe I've done in a while

This was an amazing way to help players! Could you provide a similar aid to GM's? I've been running 5e for 9 years because it's simple and translatabe, but always leaving me wanting something else from it. I love the idea of P2e but a little lost on how to get started running the game :)

I like the term race better. Ancestry seems like they're trying to be politically correct

Thank you so much for this video! The party I’m in has been playing a campaign for 3 years now in DnD 5e, but we will all also be playing the next installment of our DM’s world’s story in a new campaign. For this subsequent campaign our DM has decided to switch us to PF 2e, so I’m working on learning the system. This video is getting sent straight to the group chat for its succinctness, enthusiasm, clarity, and broad coverage. Will be checking out more on your channel :)

Fantastically Done!

i got tired of wotc’s shenanigans and switched to pf2e, and all my players agreed to it.

the most daunting thing about pf is that there are more options for everything - character customization in the form of feats and skills, the amount of basic and special actions, and the skill actions (and when each can be used)

however, i really like this system because most of the time i don’t have to homebrew a rule, as well as how customizable and tactical it is, so i like to call it “THE power fantasy system”

I hope pathfinder gets a game like Bg3 but without the extreme Corn.

Good decision

D&D BECMI > AD&D 2e > AD&D 1e > D&D 5e > D&D 3 > Pathfinder 1 > Pathfinder 2 > D&D 4e.

Great video! Really well constructed argument for why pathfinder is such a great system, even more so now with the remaster. Thanks for making it!

Hell yeah. Im hoping that more people try playing pathfinder, I am a DnD hater so when newbies understand how great PF 2-e is it brings a smile to my face.

This is the first time I realized Summoner isn’t in PF2.

Skip PF2, go with PF1 instead. Ratfolk Summoner is a class worth having access too.

Great video. Ty

I try not to be that guy but I am always SO happy when someone tries a new system. I'm never get into someone's mentions when they complain about DnD, but every time someone complains about DnD not being good at a specific thing that Pathfinder is good at I REALLY want to let them know as much as I know they're not going to take that advice.

Love PF2e... Biggest thing to keep in mind when changing over: 1) in pf2e AC= not getting hit, AC= Avoiding Crits. You will get hit and often, your AC is what is there to help keep those hits from being crits. 2) "Teamwork makes the Dream work" ; the party must work together to debuff the enemies and buff each other. NPC AC and to hit will be higher than 5e. 3) Due to the Multi-Attack Penalties (MAP) you do not want to use all 3 actions to just attack. Use those actions tactically to also move, debuff, buff, flank and defend, as well as attack. 4) Lower levels, especially when learning, arc lethal. Be prepared to get knocked out and possibly die. But that said, as you learn and level that becomes less of a worry. The enemies are still tough, but you know better how to handle them and will have more tools in your toolbox to work with. Have fun! It's well worth the changeover!

Now that the 2024 Handbook for DnD is out, I realize they've taken a lot of these into consideration for their new system

I would love to play pathfinder and join those society games but have trouble locating them. Are there online ones available ? if so where ? am looking et EU timezone cheers

I am learning PF2e to DM for my friends. The more I learn about the system the more I'm loving it. The balancing is sooo much better. Character creation with the heritages and backgrounds really helps create some depth to who the character is. Even for people who don't normally create a backstory. The Rune system for magic items is fantastic and allows you to use your great great grandpa's sword through the entire campaign without falling behind. Also, Paizo (PF2e publisher) supports Archives of Nethys and shown that they care about the community by their stance they took when WOTC tried pulling their BS.

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Something I don't understand:
How do ranged weapon's scale? If you only ever role the weapon dice for damage without any dexterity modifications?

I was pretty happy with 5e… and then 2024 came around. If I was sick of the characters bouncing up and down from 0hp like rubber balls before… it’s only gotten worse. I’m now actively looking to learn PF2

Super helpful. Thanks!

D&D and Pathfinder still a have those "suspension of disbelief" breakers : healing and dying.
When you are dying from a wound, you should not die in 4 rounds. And when someone give you first aid, he should not do so in one round.

In real life, when there is a medical emergency after a car crash, you can be save from lethal wounds tens of minutes or even hours after being wounded. And while the first aid may be administered in a minute or so, the whole surgical stuff to save you for real may last hours.

I tend to systematically house rule that, by replacing rounds with "minutes" or "ten minutes", meaning healing and dying happens outside of combat. You don't fix an "axe in the head" condition of your buddy while the giant is still swinging that axe.

Natural 1's always count for 1 success level lower then the number would otherwise be.
Natural 20's always count for 1 success level higher then the number would otherwise be.

I moved from D&D5e to PF2 about a year ago, and I absolutely love it. The system mechanics allow for better storytelling: in 5e, a level 17 character has 4 more points of proficiency than a level 1 character. But in PF2, the level 17 likely has a proficiency of 25, without gear or feat bonuses: the characters MECHANICALLY get better, showing the real progress they gain for adventuring.

This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!!

Was listening to this in the background and thought it was XP to level 3. boy sound like Jacob

Sorry, race is more appropriate and accurate

changing ancestry boost to 2 free boosts isn't alternative rule or variant rule it is just an option that every player can take durring character creation

clarification "proficiency bonus" is equal to your lv + number corresponding to your training level and untrained character don't add thier lv

some classes starts as expert in perception not just trained

casters instead of class DC have spell save DC of corresponding spell tradition

just nitpicking in PF2e there aren't weapon properties there are weapon traits

nat 20 also move degrees of success one higher