Is the West Getting China Wrong? - Keyu Jin & Gideon Rachman | Intelligence Squared

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Michael Folkesson
Michael Folkesson - 23.10.2023 18:04

Power hungry, arrogant, aggressive, trampling human rights? Yes, I think we got that right

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Al Maysri
Al Maysri - 20.10.2023 02:26

China shouldn't worry what the west think. They are a bunch of envious creatures they have like this for centuries.

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Phillip Liu
Phillip Liu - 18.10.2023 06:05

War with China, won be fought by Americans, war be fought by Americans Allies in short cannons fodder lol Korea, Japan and the Philippines Australian ❤❤❤😢😢😢😮

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清風
清風 - 17.10.2023 21:41

The American people are great people, but the American government is the root of the world's disasters, and the American media is the world's anti-human media.

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BEN JIANG
BEN JIANG - 17.10.2023 06:18

The West has never got China wrong. It just doesn't want to see China grow strong. That's it.

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soedesh bechan - 16.10.2023 13:03

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Lee Michael
Lee Michael - 16.10.2023 10:00

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Y B
Y B - 16.10.2023 02:06

it is kind of sad that Westerns will believe her. Certainly she was misleading even 4 months ago

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Ravi
Ravi - 14.10.2023 13:28

Very insightful guest...most western experts r ignorantly dismissing her analysis

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David Stewart
David Stewart - 14.10.2023 06:16

I went to China 5/6 times in the mid-1990s to teach seminars on moral education for university and high school teachers. The headmaster (principal) of a Beijing high school for 'princelings' asked to talk to me privately to ask my advice how to guide 'the most selfish generation' ever born in Chinese history how to think about, and act for the benefit of others! These 'princelings' are now in 30s and should the CCP remain in power they will lead the nation in 20/30 years (not meritocratic at all). Are they having children if so, what sort of parents are they? To say that the government is 'encouraging single women to have children' is clearly disingenuous, when all that happened was that there were some regulatory changes, allowing them to have children and have to abort of be penalized in some way. All government benefits for having a child are only available to married couples. What an articulate spokeswoman for the CCP. You would never know that China is under the dictatorial thumb of the CCP listening to her!

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Jasper Chance
Jasper Chance - 14.10.2023 06:06

I want to trust China, I hope Taiwan takes China back without any kind of violence.

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David
David - 13.10.2023 21:25

What I learned from this interview: keyu jin is CCP's spokeswoman, part of their psyop.

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Thanh Ben Mansour
Thanh Ben Mansour - 13.10.2023 15:42

She didn't want it but she destroyed China

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Peter Whimster
Peter Whimster - 13.10.2023 14:44

The economic stakes may be hight but in the long run best to disengage from China on anything the west can do themselves. Crushing the Tibetans, Tiananmen Square Massacre, King Kong, genocide of the Uyghurs, the CCP is a dictatorship a democracy cany engage with for any positive outcome in the long run.

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James Kamotho
James Kamotho - 12.10.2023 22:47

Her view on the state of the real estate was dishonestly optimistic. I wonder if she would offer the same views...

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Kyrin
Kyrin - 12.10.2023 19:13

I really despise these Asian pets of white people. Self loathing colonial tools that are constantly created in the West and still far too often in Asia

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Kin Chan
Kin Chan - 12.10.2023 16:48

Thank you Dr Jin

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cs han
cs han - 12.10.2023 06:25

It is not the West Getting China Wrong! It is the west and their medias intentionally made it! Because the west abvious losing their competition with China in every aspect. Jealousy and fears of fail of the western system made it! So they keep spreading lies agaist China

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JK E
JK E - 11.10.2023 01:42

As long as the CCP is in power there is no doubt that we are not getting China wrong. As well articulated in English you spin it.

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Ryan Mckenna
Ryan Mckenna - 10.10.2023 20:14

Olive shaped wealth distribution - I like this concept.

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Tomi Dakar
Tomi Dakar - 10.10.2023 09:55

🏆🎖🏅🥉🥈🥇
Thank you Keyu Jin n Gideon Rachman for the relevant big picture view of China as mostly misunderstood n the ubiquitous unhelpful misinformatiin n targetted disinformation propaganda of geopolitics malice of certain govts n countries.
Good luck.

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supermash1
supermash1 - 08.10.2023 11:05

China will continue to prosper, but it will be a long time before the average Chinese is as prosperous as the average American.

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Marco Siebert
Marco Siebert - 08.10.2023 09:26

We have seen younger generations in China that wanted change before. 天安門廣場

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Manana11
Manana11 - 07.10.2023 12:32

Propaganda

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Hoang Dinh
Hoang Dinh - 07.10.2023 07:35

Thís lady either get pay by the ccp or to scare to talk about them,

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David Goh
David Goh - 06.10.2023 19:23

No, the West is not wrong in it’s assessment of China. Let’s not be too intellectual and muddled-headed. In Xi’s China it’s all about the politics of power preservation, stupid. Yes, this also applies to an extent in other countries but the point here is authoritarians/autocrats are more predisposed to this kind of behaviour

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v Bremont
v Bremont - 06.10.2023 12:33

The problem is technology is misunderstood: the believe a ford automobile is equal to an EYE phone the reason why you have a techno feudalism which is the process of a new feudalism where industrialists and bankers take onece again a back seat. and you get a a correct feudalism where intelligence rules rather than economy. Rê-Atoum, le dieu créateur

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D Do
D Do - 06.10.2023 09:41

No the west deen through China . No misunderstand here

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Garius Jarfar
Garius Jarfar - 06.10.2023 09:28

I'm not fooled by the young in China, like in Nazi Germany they are being trained to fight or die. There is only one approach for democracy against tyranny and that's fight. I'm Australian and I know what it's like when one disobeys the great and mighty Xi, Wake up, this monster will make one obey or kill. The Chinese people like the Russian people for the majority are barbaric poorly educated plunderers' and killers.

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rosetzu_nagasawa
rosetzu_nagasawa - 06.10.2023 04:00

in a COMPETITION, the only moves the rival could make is name calling
then
there is NO COMPETITION.

Its an admission of defeat.

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alapati Cornell
alapati Cornell - 05.10.2023 14:36

She is truly a communist /CCP member

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alapati Cornell
alapati Cornell - 05.10.2023 14:18

China belongs to the CCP & you can't trust them with your lire. They so inhumain

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Chris Chicago692
Chris Chicago692 - 05.10.2023 12:34

Love the Show. In this case, a slight critique: the organizer SHOULD HAVE realized that Ms. JIN's DAD, is the President of the Communist-Sponsored "Asian Infrastructure Bank". By that alone, one should ASSUME Ms. JIN would vehemently DEFEND communist China. ANYTHING less would, in and of itself, CAUSE His DAD immediate troubles (i.e. disappearance? recuperation at an Asylum? death from a heart attack? felt off from a balcony? to name just a few possibilities?). Against that background, why am I NOT surprised that Ms. JIN simply regurgitates Communist Talking Points.

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jason woo
jason woo - 05.10.2023 11:21

金人庆女儿?

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Jinmi
Jinmi - 05.10.2023 10:17

The West is not interested in understanding China it does not want a competitor because its rise is based on looting and unleashing pain. The Anglo-Saxon lead western block cannot thrive in a fair world it dominates and controls through capital-driven imperialism which it masks as a democracy after committing slavery and global looting.

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Muhibbah T
Muhibbah T - 05.10.2023 02:37

Xi government is doing for the world to CONTROL 1,400,000,000 people in China in order not to made trouble to the world.
The western world should do the best assist for xi government.
Why within the 1,400,000,00 Chinese how MANY POOR, bad, prisoner, gangster terrorist and devil inside?
Without a strong Chinese culture government in Beijing is a bad news for the world.
THE CHINESE PARENTS WILL NOT ALLOW TO INVADE OTHERS BY SENDING THIER KIDS TO BATTLE.
( the parents will bring down the government so don't worry about China.)
Kids only allow enter battle of defence.

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ermitanyo ed
ermitanyo ed - 04.10.2023 03:05

China became superpower at the expense of phil.wealth; sinceSWB blocked IMF and committee of 300 from using what was deposited in UBS ; China 's economy is in the verge of collappsing.

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Blissful Awareness
Blissful Awareness - 04.10.2023 02:42

Looks like China is mobilising its "secret army" of Communist to drive its face saving losses in the US. Never trust China- it has shown its true colors but miscalculated the outcomes. Look at how Jack Ma was wiped iut of existence overnight- diabolical. Only fools will fall for this new rhetorics. Get real! The occupation of Islands in the Indo Pacific and construction of military bases is real. The threat against Taiwan is real. The conflicts at the India- China border is real. China under Xi Jinping is a threat to the world so don't camouflage it.

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Regino Resuera
Regino Resuera - 03.10.2023 10:12

ACCORDING TO WEST CHINA IS ALWAYS WRONG

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Mark Sandsmith
Mark Sandsmith - 02.10.2023 14:07

We have to treat Chinese fascism kindly ONLY because we buy all their temu sh!t.
This is the Tokyo Rose of Chinese totalitarianism.

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ddd
ddd - 02.10.2023 05:02

US afraid of competiton because they know they can not compete with China. That's way US will use their military and it means WAR

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William Moss
William Moss - 02.10.2023 02:37

Why are these people allowed to attend our schools? They are our enemy!

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Gaius Octavius
Gaius Octavius - 01.10.2023 07:56

well, she is definitely a liberal.

i think this idea that only western liberal capitalist economies can have highly innovative and dynamic economies is a farce. it's also highly unlikely china will resume further liberalization.

it's quite literally written in the constitution that china seeks to have a highly dynamic and innovative socialist market economy. china's economy is likely to remain dominated by SOE/cooperatives with small enterprises being allowed to exist in the small-medium sphere.

this is about as far as I think cpc will tolerate. any resuming of liberalization is a sign that capitalist roaders have regained control of the party. allowing these people to succeed is literally the death knell for china. the contradictions will grow exponentially until it breaks...

i will remain highly suspicious of people who are permitted to talk in the west about how china should or shouldn't do things. they are allowed to speak because the interests served by doing so originate in the west, not china.

i find it disappointing that she gets so much correct about diagnosing the future/problems of china & dispelling some of the hyperbolic claims about china's collapse, but then ultimately just preaches for more liberalization...i hope xi purges liberals harder because the challenges the world faces cannot be addressed by liberalism & the working people of the world cannot be served by liberalism either. Liberalism has only worked in the west thanks to exporting capital, plunder and colonialism...that model is dead

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mike
mike - 30.09.2023 12:01

As a Chinese man,I admire that is very good and objectice intervew.Mrs.Jin talking everything about the china is quite true right now.

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Thuy Doan
Thuy Doan - 30.09.2023 06:15

China needs to stop stealing intellectual property from the west and claim it as their own. China also need to work with the international community. However, they rejected that idea and continue to go in the wrong path by bullying nearby countries and threatening them. China's government is not playing fair with others and continue to build a stronger military to threaten everybody.

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polyglot8
polyglot8 - 28.09.2023 22:08

P R O P A G A N D A

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William Collins
William Collins - 28.09.2023 16:56

Fact ignoring and bending propagandist for the CCP.

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