Secret of Mana Remake Analysed! SNES vs PS4/Pro/PC/Vita!

And this is why I play it on a hacked vita XD

Man I think the cannon might be one cut too many. I just don’t get why such a drastic cut when they could have made that sequence play out in 3D so easily. When this first released I thought it looked like garbage but have lightened on it and was considering picking it up even but man that cannon cut is just brutal.

The high frame rate support is pretty nice though.

I'm playing the remake now for the first time and I don't entirely get the hate for it. I see the issues but it's a nice change up if you've played the SNES version many times.

Snes all day

its a shame that there wasnt any pre rendered cutscenes instead of just ''loading...'' because playing that one the psvita would really feel like a ps2 game

Still own a real Nintendo game

Can the Vita FPS problem be solved if it's overclocked?

After trials of Mana I think this needs to moved on. From and kinda redone

Trials of Mana translates 2D environments straight to 3D which becomes confusing and feels boxy so part of their solution is to constantly have a golden star Icon on the map showing where you are meant to go. - very ANTI exploration.

I think Secret of Mana needs a treatment approximate to Breath of The Wild.
Remake the various kingdoms and regions but not to any scale or trying to one to one replicate any dungeon areas.
Replicate the story, characters, music and design of items/people but make a new experience

This game feels like it was designed for the psp and then forgotten about and then it was re released 10 years later.

Cel shading wouldve made it incredible

will my SSD Replacement fixes the Constant Loading issue ?

I've currently just started playing this on my PS5. I'm not sure what to make of the game thus far, but I always try to get through my games and not dismiss them.

SNES VS PS4 who has better graphics

Secret of Mana. Chrono Trigger. Final Fantasy VI. The 3 main games that set me on the path of an RPG gamer.

Enjoyed the remake, but it's far from perfect. It does feel like a budget title and just doesn't play as well as the original. The graphics are nice, but I still prefer the style of the original. And that voice acting....oh boy.

Your Snes footage was from an emulator and zoomed in (looked nothing like it does played on an original SNES! ). Secret of Mana still looks good even today on the real hardware, espevially on a 100+ hz CRT and RGB Scart cable!

I get sick of people saying things like, "It lacks the charm of the original 2d game". All that is, is you speaking in code and really meaning, "I have too much nostalgia for the old game." Because I promise, if any modern game was remade to an old 16 bit remake... you'd not like it.

Real talk.

I'm not defending this remake, I haven't played it. But, all too often those nostalgia glasses are glued on and people are way too judgemental of modern remakes. Tifa's tits, anyone? lol

Im pretty sure on snes you didnt have to wait for the other player to cast a spell or
Use and ability. On ps4 everything pauses the game🤦‍♂️

The original is unplayable.

Everyone loves FF Adventures II.
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I can’t believe we went from this to the Trials of Mana remake in a couple of years. One looks like a PS2 game and the other is on par with Dragon Quest XI on PS4 visually. I hope we get a DF of that game when it comes out next month on PS4, Switch and PC.

Remake was WAY too easy, there was absolutely no challenge whatsoever in the game. I never once used candy or chocolate after I got healing. I had to handicapped myself from not using magic so the boss fights would be more interesting. How disappointing!! But the real game killer for me was that there was NO DAMAGE STACKING... so no massive burst of damage that was so satisfying to watch in the original! Why the fuck would they not add that in!!! It was so satisfying stacking all those damage and see that massive burst of damage killing the enemy in 1 hit!

One of the best games I've ever played, and one of the best ever made!! I think remakes are very important mainly because mistakes can be corrected and especially because new generations will be able to play the same games that we have enjoyed one day.

Brilliant video; you were factual yet balanced in your views. 10/10 =)

Remember to upload a similar video for Trials of Mana on PS4, PS4 Pro, PC, and Switch.

Not the same thing when you turn pixels into polygons. Removes what made the visuals special

Just have to say this game looks terrible. They added voice acting but kept the faces completely static?

If storage space was such a concern, why didn’t they string the game out over multiple cartridges like PS1 games did with discs?

Imagine if Nintendo didn't bother going to Phillips and stuck with Sony. Would be a great time to time travel, which is obviously not possible.

Congrats John, your wish at the end of the video has came true, Seiken Densetsu 3 (now Trials of Mana) iscoming to the west both as remake and in its original form. Hope DF will be covering it as well when the remake releases!

SuperPixelBoobGirls favourite remake (wink).

The Super Nintendo version is and will always be the superior.

What soundtrack is that playing at 9.00mins?

EDIT: Wait why is a comment I posted on a video about Final Fantasy VII here, on a video about Secret of Mana? I mean sure, it’s a got a like on it, so I won’t delete it, but I’m confused as to why it’s here.

So I started this for the first time today. I never played it back in the day, in fact I wasn’t around back then. But I brought the game recently, and placed the disc into my PS2 because my PS1 is out of action, and turned on my incredibly sexy Sony KV-21X5U Trinitron CRT. The. Game. Looked. Stunning.

Like holy crap, it’s amazing! The models look way better than I thought they would, I was expecting them to look awful and pixelated like 3D 240p games often do when upscaled, but no, on the CRT they look great! They are still only okay models, with weird arms most of the time, but they don’t look pixelated at all. And the backgrounds, no dithering is visible even over RGB, and the everything looks awesome and devoid of compression artefacts. Additionally, if you watch the FMV on a modern TV, it looks super compressed and awful. But if you watch it on a CRT like I did, it looks awesome! Very few compression artefacts, and the low resolution doesn’t damage the picture at all, if anything the scanlines make it look better.

Honesty the game just looks and feels amazing, I don’t like the combat system and I think it needs more save points (I spent 3 hours looking for one earlier, that’s why I’m posting this at 5AM, I couldn’t turn the PS2 off until I’d saved.) but the game has aged brilliantly, at least when you play it on a CRT. The controls kinda suck too, but pressing select makes things a million times better by giving you a big arrow that points at yourself, and red or green triangles on doors, transitions, and ladders.

Still confused as to why this isn't on Switch.

Remake?
Capcom>Square Enix

This is just sad.

Honestly I’d rather play the original

Feels like when playing the remake that it takes longer to kill enemies compared to the snes version

It's a damn shame that SE didn't use this opportunity to include the cut content of the SNES version, which always felt a bit... "off" to me, even back then. Might have made this into one of those absolutely fantastic remakes that occassionally pop up, instead of just a 1:1 copy but with polygons instead of sprites.

I dunno. I kinda like the uprezzed PS2 look this has going for it. It's like someone took the DS Final Fantasy games' style and cleaned it up for a 6th generation console release, and then remastered it for the current day, which is charming in its own right. Though it doesn't have the same feel as the SNES game, that's not necessarily bad, as I feel this new style gives the game its own personality. I think this look especially looks great for the PSVita release, where the small screen hides some of its flaws. Couple that with an overclock mod and the game runs quite a bit better than it does without, getting around 50-60 FPS (though it's a bit inconsistent.)

Of course, I never could get into the SNES release and have no nostalgia, so that may affect my perception.

As simple as it is, I love the minimap representation. We get a reminder of that old school look on top of new grahpics. Best of both worlds.
Cool stuff.

I got this on android.

this is a REAL game? (The newer one)

murphy's law of rpg: no rpg game can beat seiken densetsu 2!

Minimap looks better than the game itself

looks like shit.

oclock.

Kudos for using Soukaigi songs on the video! Best OST ever.

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