My issue with new React docs

Agreed 👍🏻 i thought the same

next is not good for microservice

Exactly you're right ❤

Confused with the installation part as well, and that’s exactly what brought me here.
Not impressed with the docs at all.

I liked the video I can't share my POV on that because It's only 1 month for me knowing react I am learning react from past 1 month is anyone can Guide me what I need to do I am very confused from all this new documentation stuff and so much noise about it in the market what is the best optimized way to move forward Hopefully Someone Guide me Thanks Hitesh Sir for making this video ❤

We failed to notice the intentions from the beggining. They lied saying react is a library and that it was easy to move to or integrate and we believed (Dirty software marketing). React has always been a framework they are just simplifing the use of it now. Welcome to the real react face with no lies.

started react few days back and faced the same prblm. Apart from installation rest is fine but next and all in installation is confusing for a beginner. They should have given at least something about core react too.

I might not at all agree with cra but 200% agree with the vite part. Would have been big time saving.

You are no superior than the React Core team. So chill and relax. They know what they are putting into the docs very well. If someone has a problem, it's his problem, not that the docs are written bad.

How will we deny your opinion 🙄?

totally agree sir

Honestly, I am just starting off with react and still struggling to understand the basic of creating a simple web app with react. Last two days I was just trying to create a simple web app and behold on new website I started seeing frameworks stuffs , I got freaked out and the whole stuff is not beginner friendly...

I have learn react now what I should learn angular or nextjs

agree

Yeah, first time when I saw vite like this I was like seriously?!😑

So, is it the right time to re-welcome Angular ?🙃

React has shifted from being a client side framework to a server side framework with the introduction of suspense..., which cannot be done without the use of meta framework, ie a simple vite react cannot do SSR. This whole thing requires a new approach of thinking which the beta (now new official) docs want you to think about right from the start, which cannot be done if you start with a simple vite react template.
And every one would agree what you start your project with generally sticks for a long time.
And CRA should never be added to the docs cause many beginners (actual beginners) still use CRA which leads them to move backwards with trend of using slower bundler instead of better alternatives.

Totally agreed bro

now they are clearly telling us that dont use react without frame works.its going to be challenging for beginners in future

I learned react with class based components and it cam in handy when learning Angular as both of them were nearly same concept. And now I am obsessed with Class based components because they exactly tell which function is responsible for what and there are less surprises in class based components it also helps me to keep my code clean, I don't know why people don't use Class Based Components that much...
(I was not trying to make the point that we cannot achieve same thing in functional components, but in class based components it's alot easier and fun)

best way to create react app using vite its simple easy and they should mention something about vite on there , and using of a framework for a simple application is kind of overengineering i would say

Hello sir
So what should I do I just started to learn React.
Should I continue learn React or directly move to Next JS ?

npm create vite@latest.
Hope people will come to your video for this lol..

Hi Hitesh Sir, I have a difference of opinion. Shifting to framework is much nice step in my point of view, because one can learn everything in a easy manner.
Secondly, React has to compete with Angular too, so that maybe one of the reason too.
Another one I would say that, for example, we can make whole web application and REST services using Servlets in Java, but going to Spring Boot seams pretty smart choice. So, same way learning pure REACT don't seems good choice, rather, we should learn framework which is cool and production-ready.

Just a difference of opinion, rest I somewhat agree with you. Nice video!!!!!

Now what should i do i was learning react js currently and got to know about this should i cancel all earliest tutorial of react very confuse

same thought

Totally agree, nice docs but Vite and Parcel should get more room as they are the best way to learn React/JSX after CodeSandbox.

It will be good provide more info in the docs on how to install React using Parcel and Vite. But I don't think this is a major issue because the documentation of Parcel and Vite is very amazing and one will easily understand how to create a React application with these tools.

Vercel will be building React in future that's true. FB isnt going to be focusing

Mostly people who is advertising c++ as a cp language they didn't work very well in market they just pass out from reputated
college and started c++ playlist and cp cp cp barking everywhere and created controversy rather then explain that we can also do Development in c++ 😅😅

React Server Component is the answer to your issue

Forcing us to use more opiniated frameworks.

point made.

exactly same thought as yours

There was vite and create react app in beta a few days before but now they have removed here

create-react-app is dead 🔥

Yes, I think the reason is related to SEO.

I paused the video in the middle and commented all vecel thing going on then watched remaining video and deleted that cmt 🤣

👍

I love venila react

Good observation. The test of organic React being diluted...

I completely disagree. Last year my company had to choose the frontend stack, either React or Angular. And we chose React, because it was 'simpler'. But then we realized that we need state management, routing, forms, animation library, styling solution. So basically we had to invent our own framework.

So react proposed this misconception that it is very easy to pick up, but if you need full site made with react, well basically you need some sort of framework. If we take that to account, react is basically same as Angular.

So this section in docs is VERY HELPFUL. We lost two clients, because we had to rewrite our two apps from CRA to Next, because later client wanted to add SSR, and CRA does not support that at all.

Now we are switching to Angular and very happy with it.

Today i needed to check react docs, was surprised to not see the usual installation commands, thought it was a problem, until I found that several others also have the same issue

Next is fine, even if you want to build something simple.
Next makes routing and other stuff way too easy and more efficient.

It also ends the need of having a backend for simple cruds, you simply put them directly with the frontend.

Using plain react is no longer the Required way of using it anymore, and it's clear with new docs, and it's from the authors. And they didn't take this decision for no reason.

Thank you sir, totally agree.

exactly that blow my mind when i saw documentation for installation

I agree with you but its still 1000x better than AWS. They launched the v3 JS sdk in Dec 2020 and still the docs isn't completed.

so much honesty in one video