Windows 11 23H2 Sucks! Zen 5 KB5041587 Patch Testing + Windows 10 Comparison

Windows 11 23H2 Sucks! Zen 5 KB5041587 Patch Testing + Windows 10 Comparison

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@Blue_Pumpkin
@Blue_Pumpkin - 06.09.2024 19:08

Historically a rise in complexity has correlated with a rise in fraud. This may be a deliberate attempt to defame professional reviewers. Idk

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@shoobadoo123
@shoobadoo123 - 06.09.2024 19:10

I'm on windows 10 but will definitely be updating to windows 11 once 24H2 officially rolls out. The gains are just too big to ignore. Thanks Steve

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@anaveragehuman2937
@anaveragehuman2937 - 06.09.2024 19:11

I solved this problem by not playing video games for the past 10 years

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@abhishek_k7
@abhishek_k7 - 06.09.2024 19:40

for a moment I thought it was Rajinikanth in the thumbnail lol

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@TheHangarHobbit
@TheHangarHobbit - 06.09.2024 20:16

It is not MSFT's fault you had a bad Windows install, I bet you didn't even do the requisite sacrificing of a goat on a stone altar to an effigy of Bill Gates as it clearly says on page 3268 of the EULA did you? For shame HU, for shame.

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@_Kaurus
@_Kaurus - 06.09.2024 20:30

This just screams what we have all known for soooo long, and that is Microsoft windows is a POS

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@djpep94
@djpep94 - 06.09.2024 20:47

I have an 11700k cpu (and obviously ddr4 ram)

Is it even worthwhile me buying an rtx4090 (or the new 50 series high end card)

Or is my cpu going to hold me back too much? (I play at 3440x1440)

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@dikkajn8185
@dikkajn8185 - 06.09.2024 21:14

Windows to najgorsze gówno dopóki nie wyjdzie jakiś linux typowo pod gry to niestety musimy się użerać z tym gnioto gównem pozdrawiam

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@gamingfromjohnwayne
@gamingfromjohnwayne - 06.09.2024 22:32

How u download load 24 h2?

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@pallenda
@pallenda - 06.09.2024 23:14

TBH I rather have Win 10, even with slower fps.

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@rafdes
@rafdes - 06.09.2024 23:25

If I may: Your logo is on the wrong side. It should be on the left. Specifically for tees, long sleeve or short, front facing logos typically would be in the center or the left side.

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@SwebHat
@SwebHat - 07.09.2024 01:14

Why can’t my pc with a new ryzen cpu get windows 11?

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@edwardzdankiewicz9068
@edwardzdankiewicz9068 - 07.09.2024 02:57

Which version of directX or openGl are involved? Maybe the most sensitive games are all on one common underlying engine like unreal? Do you put only one game on a hard drive for the test? Game installs might interfere with each other s settings for graphics systems dlls

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@philslaya
@philslaya - 07.09.2024 03:07

im 22H2 is that ok? do i get the amd slight performance increase?

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@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh - 07.09.2024 03:53

But, we still do not know if the same impact is observed on Intel CPUs?

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@esoel
@esoel - 07.09.2024 05:45

Have you tried an exorcist? 😂Thanks for all the testing, makes me feel good about my windows 10 install... this is extremely puzzling... did you notice any pattern between the games that have different performance in the good vs bad install? Eg Vulcan vs Opengl vs Directx, or Unity vs Unreal vs Whatever... I don't know, you probably already thought about this but it's all so strange...

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@TerrorCock
@TerrorCock - 07.09.2024 06:00

It show 7900x in chart.....

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@starrims
@starrims - 07.09.2024 06:59

Tonight, I dreamt about you out of nowhere 😂😂😂

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@chovekb
@chovekb - 07.09.2024 07:24

And all that just to play some stupid virtual games LOOL get a real life!

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@m8x425
@m8x425 - 07.09.2024 08:20

you checked to make sure Core Isolation was disabled on all platforms, right?

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@Mondo_Mike25
@Mondo_Mike25 - 07.09.2024 09:00

Anyone else getting black boxes on the video? Some are quite distracting.

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@zerotactix5739
@zerotactix5739 - 07.09.2024 09:44

Test results for Ryzen 5000 series pleaseeeeeeeeeee!

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@kost.9423
@kost.9423 - 07.09.2024 10:04

I hope you enabled HAGS on Windows 10, it can give a nice boost, especially Cyberpunk 77

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@RouvenMarkovic
@RouvenMarkovic - 07.09.2024 10:41

Anyone else facing severe frequent OS Crash issues with KB5041587 ? I face sudden restarts (like a Hardware Reset) or BSoD'S with variying Errors (all over the place)

I am using a Ryzen 7950X3D on a Asus x670e ProArt + 2x32GB DDR5 Ram -> Curve-Optimizer PBO set to -15 on Win 11 23H2. The settings run solid without crashes without KB5041587. But with the Update in a full day of use i ran into 10 Crashes at least each day.

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@konic40
@konic40 - 07.09.2024 11:04

Run to run variance with the "bad install", what the hell is the OS doing?

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@mouse454
@mouse454 - 07.09.2024 11:57

Turn TPM and trusted computing off in the BIOS it fixed my stuttering and latency problems after update. Didn't break anything either so far so good.

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@Vsevolod3788
@Vsevolod3788 - 07.09.2024 12:01

For someone who used to reinstall Windows quite often in the past that's not breaking new. Windows have always been a mess.

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@dtzyYT
@dtzyYT - 07.09.2024 12:18

Windows sucks, the sky is blue, the day goes on.

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@tech4u2022
@tech4u2022 - 07.09.2024 12:21

Windows is a data replicating algo which is constantly copying/pasting and creating files/folders and adjust security levels on the fly.
In other words : windows has become a real security threat for everyone.
The insane amount of microsoft connection to servers nobody needs is insane and uncalled for !
Windows has become true mallware !

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@chestercopperpot3793
@chestercopperpot3793 - 07.09.2024 12:38

24H2 Master Race. Microsoft about to see a spike in Windows 11 uptake...

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@MrLincoln87
@MrLincoln87 - 07.09.2024 12:50

You've done well here.

Honestly how much time goes into this ? Or you'd rather not think about it lol

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@philipmrch8326
@philipmrch8326 - 07.09.2024 14:47

It would be nice with Linux benchmarks too for the Linux gamers. I know it involves using Proton for non-native games, but Proton has become really good these days in terms of overhead.

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@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 - 07.09.2024 14:58

Just clicked to see if Steve actually shaved his head

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@sv0g391
@sv0g391 - 07.09.2024 15:18

How can they be sure it is a bad windows install and not a bad SSD???

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@zor8952
@zor8952 - 07.09.2024 18:04

I don't know how you managed to figure this out but thank you and well done.

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@amalkurvat
@amalkurvat - 07.09.2024 18:46

I'am waiting for Windows12

Win11 is failure transition like WinVista(WinXP to Win7)
Win8(Win7 to Win10)

So ignorant taking Win11 seriously without knowing windows history...

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@wenchinatrenchcoat8459
@wenchinatrenchcoat8459 - 07.09.2024 19:05

Thank's Steve! That was incredible work. I am confused, but kinda happy that there is new stuff to discover. Will you also be going back to CPUs like the 5700X3D? Just asking because I started putting together a around 1.000€ PC for a friend and the 5700X3D makes the most send to me for a pure gaming PC.

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@AnonymousWP
@AnonymousWP - 07.09.2024 20:08

So what's this "bad install" about? Of course I've watched the video, but does that include an upgrade from 10 to 11? From 22H2 to 23H2? It's not really clear to me.

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@deltaavatar6249
@deltaavatar6249 - 07.09.2024 20:27

I was taught that windows is good every other version, glad to see that it's still true
😂

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@razoo911
@razoo911 - 07.09.2024 21:08

10% more performance it's a lot, just think 7700x it's just 3-5% slower than 149000k and 9-10% slower than 7800x3d it's basically a cpu upgrade

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@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 - 07.09.2024 21:15

God dammit here I am trying to get a 7800x3D.

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@aouameurbazoka7802
@aouameurbazoka7802 - 07.09.2024 21:16

test win 11 update nvidia vs amd driver overhead , ryzen 5000 vs intel maybe a light comparison in few bottlenecked games extreme one ty :)

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@GTFour
@GTFour - 07.09.2024 21:20

Have they got the same number of processes/tasks running etc? Must be something on

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@HopemanGG
@HopemanGG - 07.09.2024 21:29

Are the margins the same no matter if the system uses an Nvidia, AMD or Intel GPU?
Probably unrelated: I remember there was a thing where any Nvidia driver past 537.58 introduced slight stuttering in browsers noticeable f.e. when using middle mouse button to scroll a page. It may or may not have only affected systems with certain refresh rates. And iirc Nvidia said that they did all they could to mitigate it and that this was a Windows bug that would be fixed in some future update. It's not unthinkable that the root cause for this problem could have also caused other symptoms.

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@MandM89
@MandM89 - 08.09.2024 00:02

I wish you health xd

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@kefka900
@kefka900 - 08.09.2024 03:31

My Windows install is 11 years old. Started life as 8.1. 6 CPU's and many updates over the years. Still runs smooth as butter.

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@mahermagdy4604
@mahermagdy4604 - 08.09.2024 07:29

While 5% difference is hardly noticeable , it's so frustrating how bad windows has become

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@JohnEleanore-b7f
@JohnEleanore-b7f - 08.09.2024 09:45

Reagan Crossing

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@JosepsGSX
@JosepsGSX - 08.09.2024 10:05

What a legend. Awesome work

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