CyanogenMod and the Death of the Android ROM

Well that was an nostalgic trip through memory lane

So its not just me who stopped modding and flashing new roms... it happened to all of us.
I was just thinking about it a couple of weeks back why i stopped experimenting things.

Loved the episode, a little more than the other podcasts.. indeed a nostalgic one here!!

HTC One M8, the best smartphone ever.

Why did we change chairs?

I almost never comment on anything but this was a trip back to the mind of my younger self. I remember rooting my phone to even be able to get basic things like battery percentages going down by 1s instead of 10s on Motorola phones. Wild times. Thanks for the trip!

When David says “I used to flash nightly and loose all data. Just because I was nerd”. It really hit me hard. Man… what days those were. I miss those days

Absolutely loved this episode reminds me when I used to flash my android with paranoid android watching mkbhd at his bedroom doing videos with the cereal boxes behind him

2010 started the enshitification of the internet 😢

wow what a great episode, overclocking, roms, what a time...

i was aware of ROMs at the time and the excitement around them, and even knew a couple of them like Cyanogen, but I never really tried any of them on my phones.this was such an educational and nostalgic episode, David is amazing at this. I'd love to see more deep dives into tech history as bonus episodes. great job guys

Im down to being back calling handheld 'smart' devices PDAs again.
I had a weird fascination with them growing up, i always wanted them to be good, and suddenly we had phones that did all the same stuff.
Oops.

Super fascinating and enlightening episode. Kudos to the team as always.
David is super knowledgeable and a great storyteller. Andrew sure is a pro at making terrible wager lol

This episode reminded me of flashing nightlies during my singlehood. 😅

As a programmer it hurts my brain to hear someone refer to this as "romming"

Man this brings back memories!!

Best. Episode. Ever.

Damn have you not heard of dirty flashing nightlies? It usually never went wrong, and if it did you could always wipe after

I knew about phone freaking from the movie hackers. That came out in like 95/96...didn't realize that concept continued into cell phones lol

I'm currently daily driving the Pixel Experience on my OnePlus 7t since August 2022.

The OxigenOS 12 was really bad and late. My phone was still good, and I didn't want to throw it away just because it was not supported, so I decided to try out some custom ROM. And it worked for me.


Sure, it may not be as stable as the original ROM, but it's the best option available for using my phone and enjoying it.

I was working for T-Mobile when the G1 launched. It was so cool at the time. I just hated how there was no zoom on the camera. I totally remember this time so well and it was great to relive it. I recall wondering what apps were Google and what were open source apps. Zedge is an app that I have not heard or thought about in a long time but I was always getting stuff off of that.

I still use custom ROM on my old Android devices. Once the manufacturer stop updating the phone or tablet. I usually just flash pixel experience ROM. If that is not available for that device then I'll look for the Lineage OS ROM. Banking and most apps work fine. The only problem I seem to find is usually if I have developer option enable or Force dark mode enable. And accessibility option enable too. You just have to make sure to turn these settings off before launching those problematic app.

It's a good way to keep old devices running while getting an official custom ROM update regularly. Much better than in the past where you have to download everything and flash it yourself every time.. I would even say better than some manufacturer that updates their devices very slowly. Some of these ROM get security update every month. Makes you think if manufacturers really care about updating their device or just selling.

THE AMOUNT OF TIMES GOOGLE ASSISTANT TRIGGERED ON MY PHONE HOLY

THIS EPISODE is the origin of the “whoops” sound bite!?!

As someone who was also in the community from jail breaking, windows ROM flashing to android root and ROM porting, you guys made me feel really old. 😂

This was one of my favorite episodes, took me way back to early Android days!

I still remember reading tech news daily back in 2010s and I couldn't afford any of those.

I really love this episode. It really gave me this Amazing feeling.
Then you guys

Great episode. Marques- you forgot the Nexus S, which followed the Nexus One and before the Galaxy Nexus

I knew that Macdonalds app doesn’t work cause I had a Huawei phone and it couldn’t run that app lol

This was so entertaining. It would be great to make tech history quizzes a regular feature. Thanks for the fun!

I would love mkbhd custom rom videos! How to install and comparing them!! This would be awesome

This brings me back to my middle school and highschool days. loved it!

I got the Sidekick answer right!

I used to flash Cyanogen Mod on my Nexus S and Nexus 4 back in the days 😂

I have been an avid user of custom ROMS since Xperia X8 days. Started with obv. cyanogenmod, used MIUI, stuck with cyanogen for a long time and even rooted my daily drivers a couple of time. Even used Yu Yuphoria ( a great user exp using that phone ). Used paranoid android and LineageOS and my once daily driver Oneplusb 3T still has LineageOS 18 based on android 11 on it. Will install Lineage or Paranoid android on my Pixel 6A once google drops its support. The best way you can extend your phones life ( replacing battery is second) and a proof that Android phones can have a much longer software support ( eg. Fairphone) that can match fruit company.
Also talking about banking apps, ROOTING your device might break the apps but installing a custom ROM doesnt hamper the functionality of any banking or money related app. Some major custom ROMS (lineageOS, paranoid android, pixel experience,) work flawlessly with banking apps unless you root your phone.

Oh man I used to do the same, on my first windows phone, a htc hd, I had a partition on the sdcard that would allow me to dual boot android. After that I spent years buy and modding phones, but around the time the Nexus 5 came out I started craving for that aosp clean experience so I slowly stopped flashing roms, to the point that when Google dropped the nexus brand to release expensive phones, I straight up moved to iPhone out of spite 😅 and I’m still on it to this day.

Yeah I knew something was off about Stefanie Kondik...

Yeah, root community and jailbreak community contributed many things to Android and iOS. I remember the OG iPhone was basically barebones. Jailbreaking brought things like 3rd party apps, video recording, and quick toggles swiped from the top.

I didn't get much into custom Android ROMs, though I tried some, because I got into Ubuntu Touch which I still use now 😊

It's nice that open source is highlighted here. Proprietary make people rich but open source move the world forward. The world literally run on open source software. Big companies rely on some random small software that is developed/maintained by a random person living in some random secluded place in the world 😄

I wish big tech channels tackle open source options more. I know they are mostly the inferior options for mainstream consumers but still, they can be valid options especially for privacy in a world where there's basically none 😄

This podcast episode on Waveform has to be one of the most captivating ones I've ever listened to. It sent me down a nostalgic lane, reminding me of the first Android phone in our family – the Samsung Galaxy S Duos. The infamous TouchWiz lol. I also had the pleasure of experiencing Micromax's "Yu" phones, and I strongly recall the buzz surrounding a new OS called CyanogenMod. Those phones were absolute game-changers. Fast forward a few years, and we witness the rise of OnePlus phones, boasting what was arguably the best smartphone OS at the time. They truly were the "flagship killers."

While I was familiar with the concept of ROMs, I never dared to flash one on a device simply because I didn't own a phone. When I finally did get my hands on my first smartphone, the stock OS proved to be more than sufficient for my needs.

This particular episode was a special treat, not only for its historical significance but also for the personal connection I felt to the narrative. As David delved deeper into the story, I found myself piecing together fragments of my own experiences. David's dedication to research and his ability to engage with the amazing individuals shine through in this episode, making it a truly remarkable piece of storytelling. Hats off to David and the entire Waveform team for crafting such an engaging and informative podcast episode.

My God, the memories this episode evoked ❤

👍great episode .

Wait, that isn't Rob Miner... That's Toby Flenderson!

the first poscast I've listened completely.
but you guys forgot xiomi phones with MIUI. Those were the phones where we were actually flashing the roms...

Usually, what makes banking apps not work anymore with custom ROMs is not the ROM itself...as much as it's the fact that the device is rooted. It's not mandatory for the custom ROMs to come pre-rooted, and most of them don't anymore...but that's usually what's breaking banking apps. Some apps will also check for unlock bootloader, which you have to have to install a custom ROM. But there are usually workarounds. Personally I don't see the point for rooting your device. But I still love a good custom ROM every now and then.

Beauty of AOSP. Proud of be a small of it.

This was amazing. Thank you for the history lesson 😮

This was awesome. Do more episodes like this.

Those cyanogen days were awesome!…