Fate/Grand Order – Extra Classes (PART 1) Tier List 2023

Iyo does even slightly more dmg than that, since the actual number for BBG CCO is 422,567.32
Jord made a typo in the NP dmg up multiplier, its 4.2 not the 4.1 that Jord used
(80 from BBG, 20 from MC, 30 from herself and 30 from Oberon = 160. Now x2 from Oberon = 320.
1+320%=4.2)

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I’m confused, what is the Bunyan CE?

I actually agree with this tier list at 99% (obviously i would personally move someone down half a tier, but is still good).
I hope my beloved Jalter, of all people, gets a buff, especially a damage mod against cursed enemies, just like Chiyome or Jacques de Molay, so that she will be again a top tier damage dealer.

As an NA player who has a fair amount of experience using The Count outside of farming I do agree that when he is used as dps he’s just difficult to make work.

I remember when i talk about Arcueid is Great but not Amazing or Broken on a certain Video.
I got absolutely Blasted with the Comment said she is Rare Breed that Have access to BG Farming and on the top 3 Buster Loopers in the game.

After watching this List glad im not the only one think she's Broken lol even her Class is Trash (im sorry)

I think Joanne is like miss crane the best support we don't need

Uhhh, i think you may have forgotten Xu Fu, Myst

You forgot one extra class servants idol X

I think when looking at Art servants skill cooldowns, you need to consider Tamamo a bit more.
Most arts get the benefit of having 50% or better up time on their skills, if you just assume Tamamo gets 1 NP within a 5 to 7 turn period.
And it's definitely feasible to have 2 in that time frame.

Bunnytoria needs an NP buff. Its so sad to see her like that and I have her NP4... the commit number...

I feel you guys were a bit too hard on Jeanne. Sure, with Castoria in the game there's little to no reason to pick her, but that's the same ridiculous logic of "Summer Musashi sucks now that Ibuki exists" which is objectively false. Just like Hans is not a bad servant just because Merlin is better.

I think Jeanne should be B at worst.

Avenger Nobu at A+, tier list is valid and completely based.

ジャンヌ早く強化欲しいよなあ

I can't believe you placed QSH in A+ but Heracles in EX LOL. One of them can solo with 200% event damage CEs equipped, the other can't. One of them can solo some nodes infinitely (especially with CC), the other one can only solo for like 6 turns (even with CC). I don't think QSH should be in EX but he's more deserving of EX than Heracles for sure.

Im confused about something here. Ive seen a lot of your tier list and you say "C" is average but theres almost never any characters you rate at or below C. Seems like "A" is the true average

I have to ask, why judge Draco for a niche you wouldn't use her for to begin with? She can't fight Extra classes, so then just don't take her against Extra? Extra-class bosses/CQs (and even enemies in general) are still not very common, and for the ones that do exist, you can use other servants (that's why we summon all of them).

I guess it feels weird to dock her points for being unable to fight Extra, when servants like Melusine and Tiamat, for example, aren't docked for being unable to fight Sabers or Knights respectively. If anything, I feel like the slight annoyance of giving enemies an NP tick to be more of a problem than being unable to fight Extra classes.

Quick question... what about Mashu?

I just cant see her on the tier list and she is technically an extra class. I know shes super special in this game i just want to know where she would be placed.

Kagekiyo over QSH is wild

Well. About draco. You can just say its fair servant. Cuz eventho you're taking 2x dmg from extra classes. and you're doing 2x dmg to the other seven classes.. Shes a pretty solid servant for literally everything. but like you said she is absolutely unusable in extra class boss fights. However using 1 servant for a boss fight instead of stressing out on what servants you have and what you can use. thats pretty solid point. You can just use draco to fight a boss solo and you can throw some castorias as an extra support Defense/Offense.
Another down point would be that shes not a good farmer obviously. Personally i would use any aoe berserk instead of her.
Placing her at A+ was pretty fair in my point of view

The Jeanne slander hurts so much. Mark my words she will have another buff that makes her insane!

If jeanne simply removed debuffs at the start rather than at the end with her np then she would become really dam better and useful

It hurts my soul that Jeanne is the worst Extra (Angry man doesn't count as he is a meme character.)

Was hoping Spishtar got buff success chance rate on her 1st skill to help with 3rd skill RNG, and add either np gain or buff atk % up 30-40% as bonus on 1st skill.

Astraea is a 5 stars in disguise

Not gonna lie, I forgot Summer Skadi existed. I barely see anyone use her. She's just sad to me.

How to help Jalter: add 20% battery, 8 crit star per turn 3 turns and she get the dragon trait. This for her first skill and she will be better, not broken at the same level that the las 5* servants but sadly I know that this will never happen.

Ruler jeanne is a prime example of a servant that most people forgot about because castoria exist and it's sad, she needs some buffs like a party buff that turns all invul to anti purge defense, jalter could use a buff to imo, buff 3rd skill to have 3 turn buster or something.

I used Himiko to destroy zerker bosses (Morgan, Arjuna, Nezha alter) with her crits, while usign Santa Marta and Castoria to never get damaged or heal the little damage I got.

Its true bunny Artoria has NP dmg issue and her Att stat doesn't help her cards shine, but she can actually deal pretty good card dmg with 40% ATT up (Sometimes 70%), 20% Rainbow and 50% crit up. Also she has very good star and NP gen enabling her to often use NP which gives her many opportunities to do brave chains especially in conjunction with RNG control. She's very satisfying for me to use on NA and I'm certain she's a big winner from the mighty chains changes on JP since her preferred chain is either BQA or NPQA. She does shine more imo in duo DPS comps. Though, I woudn't rate her higher than you did, B is totally fine. The way you were describing her before the rating I thought you'd drop her in D like gamepress lmao.

I got Himiko to np 3 on 400sq and she is my second best crit servant!!
1) Super Orion
2) Himiko
3) Sigurd

how do u get angry mango man? i just cant get him

Taira carried me hard for Shimousa and right now Naraka. Genji Must Die indeed.

Salieri will always hold a place closse to my heart. I had played for 2 years and was still my only Avenger (aside from Angry Mango). After failing to get Spishtar, I said f it, I already have an avenger. Grailed him to 90 and maxed his skills... two weeks later they suprised NA with a Dantes banner and I pulled him on one ticket.

I got Ruler Artoria the first time I ever played Fgo and she really helped me the entirety of the last year

For some reason I don’t see Kukulkan

Nobu is the only reason that Im willing to roll for Koyan and Oberon. But I dont have her yet😭

Sidenote here, while it is a very high asking price for not a huge payoff, NP5 Gorgon at level 80, 1k Fous with a maxed Kscope can hit right under 400k on average turn 3 with a maxed New Plugsuit and a Koyan+Double Oberon setup. Her damage turn 1 and 2 is much worse, down at around 60k and 110k, respectively, but she can farm if you have no better options or have party cost restrictions.

If Caren is in EX then there's no reason for Spishtar to not be there.

I wish we had a special type of CC that can be applied to NPs I think CC could be a little more important in the game

disagree on kaira deserves ex if kama does 1 point for kaira vs kama is that while kama has only 1 debuff kaira applys multiple debuff so the odds of you wiffing all is pretty dam low also i would argue that for being slighty worse at farming is made for up by her CQ performance .

I feel like content creators, especially ones focused on clears, seriously downplay Summer BB and it makes me sad. Of course if you don't mind resetting 50 times for perfect RNG, she seems useless or even a downgrade. Like why use her if she doesn't guarantee perfect RNG, and she brings no other support to the table? But she's not exactly there to guarantee perfect RNG, she's there to guarantee worst case RNG doesn't happen.

There's very little things in this game as frustrating as dumping all your buffs in 1 turn and getting the one wrong type or straight up no DPS cards on the followup turn, especially for characters that rely on their cards to loop or whose NP generates stars. Summer BB pretty much guarantees that never happens, which is a huge QOL for semi-casuals that have meta supports but don't care about min turning. Additionally I don't understand the argument that you need to reset if you don't hit good cards t1. You will hit them in t2 or t3 guaranteed, and I even prefer it that way, since it allows for one turn of support NP setup without eating into the DPS window.

And it's not like you need the perfect tripple color brave chains to be effective. Mighty brave chains, or brave chains with 1 buffed type and 1 arts card is more than enough, since most crit servants can refill 100% with these chains. This is another underrated thing about her; the fact that she can lock the arts cards of servants with only 1 or 2 arts card deck, thereby guaranteeing 100% refunds 3 times in a row, is seriously underrated.

And she is the only servant that can do this, and probably always will be.

I dont have castoria so im using koyan and oberon for spishtar

For angra mainyu is lore accurate

If defense down is almost as good as attack up, wouldn't Sherlock>Himiko?

"Obviously not Luvia numbers" and then going to the spreadsheet where she's right above Luvia is peak Myst content.

It's good that with Acueid I'll level up my atlas so much. Give me luck when she comes.