Paul Linsay: An Analysis of Climate Model Assumptions | Tom Nelson Pod #257

Paul Linsay: An Analysis of Climate Model Assumptions | Tom Nelson Pod #257

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@ground752
@ground752 - 05.11.2024 18:14

Yes but if you look at goes east full , you will see areas of co2 in atmosphere is where no moisture for rain

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@BrinJay-s4v
@BrinJay-s4v - 05.11.2024 18:30

I agree CO2 is benign and no longer a force for radiative heating. After the first 20ppm heating declines on a log basis, At current levels heating is insignificant, The reasons for this are interesting with a lack of resonance so energy is not transferred,

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@dks13827
@dks13827 - 05.11.2024 18:30

This is all well and good but the administration in DC is now teaching the BS and lies to age 3 and 4 in daycare !!!

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@MrBallynally2
@MrBallynally2 - 05.11.2024 18:43

This video mainly concurs what Ott et al are saying about both Co2 and convection..

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@alangraham8926
@alangraham8926 - 05.11.2024 19:29

CO2 4 Joules, atmosphere total 8600. Even Al Gore could spot this disparity !

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@madincraft4418
@madincraft4418 - 05.11.2024 19:55

Lovely chonky science ❤. Going in for a relisten.

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@jameslee-pevenhull5087
@jameslee-pevenhull5087 - 05.11.2024 19:57

My career was motor car exhaust analysis for Global Regulations.
When I retired, Speciating Sweeping Gas spectroscopy was coming in.
I knew CO2 was a scam from the start.


Up to Euro 5, CO2 was measured with a Non Dispersal Infared Analyser. Any good scientists will tell you the absorbance is NON linear with concentration.
When a certain concentration is reached, absorbance rises very little.
Think of a millionaire throwing bank notes into a crowd. The first few rows get them all. Packing people behind the first few rows, those new people still won't get any free cash.

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@madincraft4418
@madincraft4418 - 05.11.2024 19:59

Tom, there is an interesting physicist at a podcast called See The Pattern.

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@anthonywilson8998
@anthonywilson8998 - 05.11.2024 20:08

It is now plain to see that 40plus scientists. All followed each other on computer models and programmed them to follow the principle that as CO2 increases. So too the temp increases. Now we know this is untrue due to saturated action. Every model is completely wrong. Only the Russian one. Is correct and presumably this was because they were the only ones with original thinking and not copying the other rubbis

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@rikardengblom6448
@rikardengblom6448 - 05.11.2024 20:37

Great! Many thanks!

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@MrBallynally2
@MrBallynally2 - 05.11.2024 20:48

The comparison between Co2 and H20 in the diagram could be made a tad clearer or simplified. Co2 vibrational mode: 1 ( bending), H2o: 3. Amount of molecules in the troposhere in relation: H2o 15-20 to Co2 1. The amount of collisions between the 2 type of molecules is very different. Elephant and mouse on the bridge stamping comes to mind.
Am i wrong?

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@DanishGSM
@DanishGSM - 05.11.2024 20:55

Thanks so much for the video and info.

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@chrsl3
@chrsl3 - 05.11.2024 20:59

brilliant

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@petergrimshaw492
@petergrimshaw492 - 05.11.2024 21:26

I am not sure Paul has the whole picture.
His Physics is excellent, but he seems to be tilting at 'backradiation'.
I would agree, 'backradiation' as a heatsource just doesn't work and is ultimately pretty dumb.
UV and solar is the heatsource, the rest is flux.

I would suggest Paul googles "Clive Best EEH" ?
Clive is super clever.
I could be wrong, but I got hung up on "backradiation" for a while.
Just shows how complicated atmospheric thermodynamics are !

Or maybe I'm off, which could well be true!
But I thought we were all mini Black Bodies, radiating our hearts out ?!

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@dougsherman1562
@dougsherman1562 - 05.11.2024 21:40

Fantastic talk Paul, thank you!

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@billallen275
@billallen275 - 05.11.2024 21:57

My target is 1250 ppm. Lots of food!

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@sonoftheonlywiseGod
@sonoftheonlywiseGod - 05.11.2024 22:21

It is amazing how the authors Yong Ott and Shula keep showing up.
I myself looking at IPCC, spotted the radiative energy and back radiation lacked an energy source.
I am glad somebody who knows the details can explain to me that I was not crazy.

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@conormcmenemie5126
@conormcmenemie5126 - 05.11.2024 22:39

TAKE THE RED PILL

The meteorological systems called the Northern and Southern Hadley Cells, with the Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ) around their centre cover about 42% of the planet's surface. Any changes within the sweep of the Hadley cells will affect conditions within the ITCZ. The importance of this is that the cloud mass within the ITCZ reflects incoming solar heat back out to space:
Less cloud = more heat. More cloud = less heat.

Have humans affected the balance in the ITCZ's governance of the solar heat budget? YES.
Are those effects enough to produce the additional heat gradient, commonly referred to as global warming? YES.

So how do humans produce such an effect? The annual, July to October flooding of the lower Nile created a warm, shallow, 26,000km2 evaporative surface in the Sahara Desert. The 13.5mm (4,000m3/s) of water evaporated per day was pulled south by the Northern Hadley cell when every few days it would rise onto the Ethiopian Highlands where it would create a disturbance within the west flowing monsoon, to create a Keremt storm. The Keremt storm pushed westwards across Sub Saharan Africa (5,N to 20,N) would become organised into African Easterly Waves (AEW) which eventually formed USA sized solar reflective marine stratocumulus cloudscapes. By putting dams on the Nile at Aswan form 1902 we inadvertently regulated this meteorological chain reaction, mostly by reducing the frequency of the AEWs, thus reduced the cloud cover over the equatorial oceans = the oceans became warmer, and distributed this additional heat poleward and into the atmosphere. From 1964 when the AHD completely stored the flood in a much smaller and deeper reservoir, the frequency of the AEWs reduced again = even more solar heat.

This can obviously be checked by producing an anomaly chart of the ocean surface affected by the AEW system. Integrating that with other data for rainfall and river-flow. Suggesting in 1945 to 1964 mean value. Theromcline: -20m min. Temp gradient of Canary current from 23N to 17N, July to Sept.
THIS IS THE RED PILL

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@Ernst12
@Ernst12 - 06.11.2024 01:43

The reality is that the climate change narrative has long ceased to be based on science but rather in ideology to give western governments the power to intimidate and micromanage citizens to reduce CO2 emissions and to strangle economies through eliminating reliable electricity and energy.

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@CharlesBrown-xq5ug
@CharlesBrown-xq5ug - 06.11.2024 02:16

110513. The second law of thermodynamics may be false conventional wisdom. Let's face the wonder of full heat use.

The second law of thermodynamics was developed during v8ictorian england's scientific and religious fascination with steam engines.

The second law is behind modern refrigerators needing electrical energy to compress the refrigerent to force it to release as waste the heat that it has removed from the refrigerator's service interior in the cooling part of the refrigerent's circulation. The interior coldness draws in exterior heat through the cabinet insulation. There is also discarded heat from mechanical friction and electrical resistance. The net thermal output equals the electrical input with energy not being gained or lost in this refrigeration system including its forced waste. Unencumbered refrigeration by the principle that energy is conserved should produce electricity instead of consuming it.

It makes more sense that refrigerators should yield electricity because energy is widely known to change form with no ultimate path of energy gain or loss being found. Therefore any form of fully recyclable energy can be cycled endlessly in any quantity.

Full heat recycling, all electric, very isolated underground, undersea, or space communities would be highly survivable with self sufficient EMP resistant LED light automated vertical farms, thaw resistant frozen food storehouses, factories, dwellings, self contained elevators, safe rooms, and horizontal transports.

In a flourishing civillization, small self sufficient electric or cooling devices of many kinds and styles like lamps, smartphones, hotplates, water heaters, cooler chests, fans, radios, TVs, cameras, security devices, robot test equipment, scales, transaction terminals, wall clocks, open or ciosed for business luminous signs, power hand tools, ditch diggers, pumps, and personal transports, would be available for immediate use incrementally anywhere as people as individuals or larger social groups see fit.

Some equipment groups could be consolidated on local networks.

If a high majority thinks our civilization should geoengineer gigatons or
teratons of carbon dioxide out of our environment, instalations using devices that convert ambient heat into electricity can hypothetically be scaled up do it with a choice of comsequences including many beneficial ones.

Energy sensible refrigerators that absorb heat and yield electricity would complement computers as computing consumes electricity and yields heat. Computing would be free. Chips could have energy recycling built in.

A simple rectifier crystal can, iust short of a replicatable long term demonstration of a powerful prototype, almost certainly filter the random thermal motioren of electrons or discrete positiive charged voids called holes so the electric current flowing in one direction predominates. At low system voltage a filtrate of one polarity predominates only a little but there is always usable electrical power derived from the source, which is Johnson (observation) Nyquest (theory) thermal electrical noise. This net electrical filtrate can be aggregated in a group of separate diodes in consistent alignment parallel creating widely scalable electrical power. The maximum energy is converted from ambient heat to productive direct current electricity when the electrical load electrical resistance is equal to the array internal electrical resistance.

Maximum calculated electrical power output (watts) is k (Boltźman's constant), one point three eight x 10^ minus 23, times T (temperature Kelvin) times bandwidth (0 Hz to a natural limit ~2 THz @ 290 K) times rectification halving and nanowatt power level rectification efficiency, times the number of diodes in the array.

There are a billion cells of 1000 square nanometer area each per square millimeter, 100 billion per square centimeter.


Order is imposed on the random thermal motion of electrons by the structual orderlyness of a diode array made of diodes made within a slab:

P type boron doped
-----‐------‐----___-- Out
🔻🔻🔻🔻
■■■■■■___ + Out
N type phosphorous doped

All the P type semiconductor anodes abut a metal conductive plane deposited on the top face of the slab with nonrectifying joins;  the N type semiconductor cathodes or common cathode abuts the bottom face. As the polarity filtered electrical energy is exported, the amount of thermal energy in the group of diodes decreases. This group cooling will draw heat in from the surrounding ambient heat at a rate depending on the filtering rate and thermal resistance between the group and ambient gas, liquid, or solid warmer than absolute zero. There is always a lot of ambient heat on our planet, more on equatorial dry desert summer days and less on polar desert winter nights.


Focusing on the composition of one simple diode, a near flawless crystal of silicon is modified by implanting a small amount of phosphorus (N type conductivity) on one side from a ohmic contact end to a junction where the additive is suddenly and completely changed to boron (P type conductivity) with minimal disturbance of the crystal lattice. The crystal then continues to another ohmic contact.

A region of high electrical resistance forms at the junction in this type of diode when the phosphorous near the ĵunction donates electrons that are free to move elsewhere while leaving phosphorus ions held in the crystal while the boron donates holes which are similalarly free to move. The two types of mobile charges mutually clear each other away near the junction leaving little electrical conductivity. An equlibrium width of this region is settled between the phosphorus, boron, electrons, and holes. Thermal noise is beyond steady state equlibrium. Thermal noise transients, where mobile electrons move from the phosphorus added side to the boron added side ride transient extra conductivity so the forward moving  electrons are preferentally filtered into the external circuit. Mobile electrons are units of electric current. They lose their thermal energy of motion and gain electromotive force, another name for voltage, as they transition between the junction and the array electrical tap.

Inside the diode, heat is absorbe; outside the diode, to exactly the same extent, an attached electrical circuit is energized. The voltage of a diode array is likely to be small so many similar arrays need to be put in series to build higher voltage. 

Understanding diodes is one way to become convinced that Johnson Nyquest thermal electrical noise can be rectified and aggregated. Self assembling development teams may find many ways to accomplish this wide mission. Taxonomically there should be many ways ways to convert heat directly into electricity.

A practical device may use an array of Au needles in a SiO2 matrix abutting N type GaAs. These were made in the 1970s when registration technology was poor so it was easier to fabricate arrays and select one diode than just make one diode.

There are other plausible breeches of the second law of thermodynamics. Hopefully a lot of people, mostly as independent teams, will join in expanding the breech. Please share the successes or setbacks of experiemental efforts.

These devices would probably become segmented commodities sold with minimal margin over supply cost. They would be manufactured by advanced automation that does not need financial incentive. Applicable best practices would be adopted. Business details would be open public knowledge. Associated people should move as negotiated and freely and honestly talk. Commerce would be a planetary scale unified conglomerate of diverse local cooperatives. There is no need of wealth extracting top commanders. We do not need often token philanthropy from the top if the wide majority of people can afford to be generous.

Aloha
Charles M Brown
Kilauea Kauai Hawaii 96754

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@CharlesBrown-xq5ug
@CharlesBrown-xq5ug - 06.11.2024 02:18

110513 Nanometer scale uniformly aligned parallel diode arrays may be a practical way of absorbing ambient heat. Ambient heat is uniform on a micrometer and larger scale and non uniform on a nanometer scale. Plausibly, heat absorbtion at the non uniform scale is available as Johnson Nyquest thermal electrical noise that would yield, by conversion without gain or loss, an equivelent amount of electrical energy.
AND
Diode voltage / current  characterstics can be displayed on an XY tracing oscìlloscope. Thermal electrical noise power in resistors can be displayed by time sweeps of voltage on an oscilloscope. Each such time sweep shows unique randomness.
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A simple "Special Program with Integrated Circuit Emphasis" model indicated that diodes in uniform aligntment parallel would aggregate simulated partially rectified thermal electrical noise.

Maximum direct current electrical power, half, is transfered from a direct current electrical source to the electrical load when the electrical resistance of the two parts is equal. Calculated matched resistance output (watts) is k (Boltźman's constant), one point three eight x 10^ minus 23, times T (temperature Kelvin) times bandwidth (0 Hz to a natural limit ~2 THz @ 290 K) times rectification halving and nanowatt power level rectification efficiency, times the number of diodes in the array.

There are a billion cells of 1000 square nanometer area each per square millimeter, 100 billion per square centimeter.

Creditable independent replicatable proof of concept protypes beyond improper influence are needed.

Aloha
Charles M Brown
Kilauea, Kauai, Hawaii 96754

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@desbell7431
@desbell7431 - 06.11.2024 02:24

Double CO2 from what it is now with zero effect on surface temperature.

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@SillySatire
@SillySatire - 06.11.2024 02:38

Human caused climate change is real. Millions of miles of roads using black asphalt and millions of concrete roof/buildings act as a massive heat sink and changes the solar input and dissipation ratio. It ain't CO2 and it ain't rocket science.

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@darylfoster6133
@darylfoster6133 - 06.11.2024 03:00

There was a more recent madness. It was called Covid.

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@missouri_dave
@missouri_dave - 06.11.2024 03:02

Year after year of new 'record high global temperatures" but no increase in the rate of SEA LEVEL RISE. Does CO2 heat not melt ICE? Interesting!

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@anomamos9095
@anomamos9095 - 06.11.2024 07:36

It's hard to get my head around how anyone can be fooled by the climate change scam.
The concept of a blanket keeping the earth warm and that if the blanket gets to good at insulating and not allowing the heat to escape is what they promote with the Green House Effect. But if you actually think about it you'd realize that this blanket would need to increase in efficiency by several thousand percent for the Earth to turn into Venus but that doesn't stop them from making the claim, other claims like the great oceanic currents changing direction or something that they show from computer models also leave out the little detail of requiring nearly enough energy to completely melt the south pole in less than a year before it would happen.

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@JK-rv9tp
@JK-rv9tp - 06.11.2024 08:22

Important to read the paper because a lot can be missed by Paul's halting delivery. There still must be some GHE, simply because there are some photons that do get emitted from the surface that would go straight to space if there were no GHGs. But we know that IR emission is under 10% of surface heat rejection with the rest by collision/phase change, so the GHE can't be 33K, more like 1-3K.

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@SmallWonda
@SmallWonda - 06.11.2024 11:14

It would be wonderful if Paul could find some young bloods eager to find The Truth by sharing his knowledge & enthusiasm for this critically important subject.of our times.
The fact that Money & Power are driving this - and consequently society into the ground - should not be reason to let them get away with it! You'd think if there were enough accredited people singing this message from the roof tops, The People would start listening & once they realized they have been hoaxed and scammed the maddening tide could be turned...

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