All SMGs Ranked Worst to Best in Cyberpunk 2077 2.1

Bro is rich af

I'll just add, not charge shots of raiju are not affected by sandevistans time slo, meaning you can just kill everyone with it in seconds by shooting raijus 5 shot bursts at heads over and over again.

Problem solvers kinda poop,wastes so much ammo on just simple goons

Buzzsaw is the best stealth SMG: obtainable early, can be silenced and can shoot through walls. Pariah (for silent guns that can shoot through walls) is the better alternative but it’s obtained at the end of PL. For stealth builds to be able to shoot through walls is a game changer. Pizdets happens to be another decent option for stealth. However stealthy netrunners benefit most of it: silenced and synergies with netrunning perks. Can be enhanced like Buzzsaw with reflect perks’ SMG perks. Despite Pizdets being fun to play around with and synergies with netrunning I felt it’s more situationally decent. Better smart weapons are out there and better stealth weapons too. That been said for a stealth netrunner it’s an great weapon as a silence weapon in their arsenal if you want exclusively smart weapons

Problem solver. That’s it

Fun (gun) fact: The Saratoga's IRL equivalent is likely intended to be the UMP. A beefier Shigure with similar aesthetics, it very much mirrors H&K's attempts to modernize the MP5; the new UMP offered advantages over the original, but not without drawbacks and not completely invalidating a tried and proven system. Inevitably, both found a serious amount of success for different reasons.

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Seriously?
SERIOUSLY!? That is the best pronounciation you could do?

Ah, Problem Solver. The only reason Plan B sees any use.

I've been enjoying Chesapeake. Overcloak, point towards enemies, enemies dies. Nice break from the whole manually aiming headshot pistol thing I was doing the entire game beforehand.

Buzzaw is so freaking underrated.

Fenrir will always be one of my favorites. The fact that it can be acquired so early in the game to help you take on some of the harder enemies early on like the cyberpsychos is goated.

Yinglong is easily my favorite it reminds me of the Real Life Weapon KRISS Vector.

Its my fav. weapon from the CoD MW2 days. Yinglong feels perfect in my Netrunning-SMG Build.

Freaking 1000 rounds per minute plus switch to gain extra 22% and 100% crit at distance, I plainly feel bad for my enemies, almost that is

Fenrir is downright horrifying if you use it in pair with combat-oriented netrunning
Uploading the CyberMalf is just that - UPLOADING. So you can benefit from all cool things that brings to the table.
Not to mention having electric damage gives him excellent stagger and damage. Idk how you can rank it so low.

Number 1 should be Yin Long nothing close to it if ypu has a perk to support it

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We need NewGame+ so I can get this and the cyber deck 😫

i LOVE buzzsaw its so good for stealth if you got a tier 5 xc10 cetus and kanetsugu (for %10 crit damage bonus) and all the smg skill tree perks. you can kill probably all of the enemies behind walls without even getting detected also its soo good for the netrunners that tryna track you too

How in the world have you ranked fenrir that low?

Outstanding video. I particularly liked the demonstration of bullet spread on the garage door - clever. Subscribed.

Watching for my sombre from overwatch build

(netrunner with bleeding throwing weapon and sub machine gun)

The Saratoga is based off of the UMP, not the MP5. The Shigure is closer to an MP5, but not quite.

Those are funny looking katanas

Sucks the buzzsaw spec is bugged rn. I killed the mob that drops it 50 hours of gameplay ago before I found out the spec drop is bugged.

IMO, the SMG is primarily a close-range weapon, and in many cases is more useful than the assault rifles in the game. Since in the new game [post 2.0] you get a Pulsar and a Guillotine at the beginning of Act 1, you almost don't need a pistol for general combat. The Dian is a bit weak, although it can be improved with mods. As you note, it's not great in a crowd situation, but fired against individual enemies it does pretty well. I preferred the firey Fenrir too...the new version is one I'm no longer in a hurry to pick up. But all the EMP weapons, when paired with the Microgenerator hand cyberware, are pretty dynamite. The Saratoga is merely okay, as you note...generally I prefer the Shigure. I dislike the burst-fire guns, so the Shingen is very low on my list, and I never really use it. Even the Mark V prototype fails to impress. I love the Senkoh LX, although it really only shines once you get to Tier 4 and above. But if you are into Tech weapons, it's your only choice for an SMG [although the Quazar pistol nudges its way into the SMG territory]. The Warden is pretty nice, although I use the Amazon Prime variant 'Chesapeake' which I find a notch better than the Barghest, and you can get it at the beginning of Act 1 if you have the DLC drop [otherwise it airdrops in Dogtown at some point]. I disdained the Guillotine at first, but came to realize it's a very decent weapon, esp. since you can get it at the beginning of Act 1. Too bad V doesn't have it for that Scav apartment assault to rescue Sandra Dorsett. The YingLong is a powerful weapon, esp. when used with the Microgenerator hand cyberware. It's good medicine for just about any top-level enemy, most particularly mechanized ones [IYKYK]. Problem Solver works best if you can fire it effectively with controlled bursts to mitigate its recoil. Heh...I only found Pizdets once, and was so accustomed to using other weapons that I didn't examine it closely to see what it was all about. Next playthrough, maybe. I fell in love with the Buzzsaw at first sight, and it's still a favourite, esp. in the early game. It's a bit of a struggle to get it, however...it's easy for new players to discover than Organized Crime site and get their butt kicked by some powerful enemies like Yelena and that darned sniper. I can barely describe the thrill I got when I first discovered the Raiju...the perfect variant of the Senkoh LX. and it's thrilling to use, although it takes a little practice. It's another SMG that basically takes the place of a pistol in ordinary combat. I've only done the complete Cynosure job in Phantom Liberty once, and didn't encounter the Erebus. Looks pretty radical.

Finally...I tend to go with a Pulsar or Guillotine, then Buzzsaw in the early game [Act 1]. Note that you need a relatively advanced level of Crafting skill to create Buzzsaw. I switch to YingLong when my cyberware progress allows me to install the Microgenerator hand cyberware. this will generally keep me going until I pick up Raiju in Phantom Liberty. But then I'll also use Fenrir and Problem Solver just for fun in some situations...like when Smartgun-resistant Tyger Claws are on deck.

I'm currently testing the Warden smart msg and it does insane amount of damage. I can kill some of the bosses with one clip . Probably only Pizdec can match this firepower , but i really like the hackatomy mod and since im using tetratronik ripler i prefer my targets always to be hacked ...

Using Raiju with the clairvoyant optic allows V. to eliminate enemies behind cover-- from behind cover. Clear floors from other floors. Clear buildings from outside buildings.

We need to discuss Fenrir.
If Buzzsaw is better, then why is Fenrir killing faster without any extra cyberware? Also, the quickhack stuns nornal enemies too. Even more, you could get all cyberware stats to do eletrical damage to improve fenrirs damage, something that cant be done with Buzzsaw. Reload is also way faster on Fenrir, maybe just as fast as swapping back and forth from another smg. Anyone had this experience?

I like yinglong

Really suprised the Fenrir is so low on the list...did it change since this video? For me it is a beast that shuts down everything I shoot with it...the time to kill plus shutting down cyberware stacks up to one of the best guns in the game, especially with boss level enemies.

Problem solver is fun :)

On a vanilla playthrough before adding PL, and not a fan of smart weapons, that elimates most of these.

SMGs also work well with short bursts at headshots - doesn't have to be all spray and pray. Throw on a silencer and you can double-tap a dozen enemies and maintain stealth

Buzzsaw has always been a favorite for me. I just like bullpup smgs.

fenrir is an absolute life saver at low levels on very hard, especially against cyberpsychos, it's still very solid at end game too so I'm extremely confused why you would rate it so low.

Pretty sure that the saratoga is based off the UMP45, but it’s still very close to the MP5

Is Raiju dlc only?

can someone tell me why none of the ripperdocs in the map ever sell me iconic cyberware? i'm around level 40 to 45, and the only iconics i can get are the berserk, sandevistan and the cyberdecks

Erebus is completely busted imo. Aside from that, its so fucking satisfying using the blackwall gateway purely because its the newest quickhack we have, and using it in the cyberdeck is an absolute nightmare in terms of RAM and Overclock. Erebus is absolutely insane

how do you get the sticker on the yinglong to glow like that

Normally your lists are on point. Kinda feel like you missed on this one though. Should’ve just made a list for smartguns exclusively.

I honestly think Problem Solver top 3 SMGs EASILY.

I just realized you have also the bug of buzzsaws muzzleflashs disappearing when you switch on a muzzle break. I first thought it has something to do with my mods but you have it too, so is it a basegame bug? and why can't I find anything to it online? It's just really annyoing and kills the buzzsaw completly for me since it feels pretty weard (I think some sound is missing too)

Pizda = cunt. So Pizdet is a wulgar name you would give someone.

Combat netrunner build with Paraline Mk.5 plus Yinglong.+150% shock damage from cyberware stats, ... Smasher kill in 10-12 seconds(NO short circuit), maxtac die before even jump from the flying vehicle, ... Nobody can convince me that Yinglong is not the best smg, since it is.

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I find with any automatic weapons the advice given to Ripley ('Remember...,short controlled bursts') and others was spot on and reduces the natural bullet spread. in other words pretend it's a AR-15 and and your aim will improve